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10-28-2014, 06:24 PM | #1 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Idaho
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| Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
I have my TF2 chassis all put together, and I jump right in on the body. Having done lexan clear bodies for years, I figured a hard body would be a lot simpler, nope. I think I have completely screwed this one up. My question: How much more sensitive are hard bodies to cold? It is about 55deg in my shop, warm enough to paint up a backslash lexan body and have it come out fine, but the paint on the hard body is going on lumpy. I am using Tamiya TS paint, which is for plastic. Also, the paint isn't binding worth a damn to the body, it is just wiping of with just a little effort (trying to sand the lumpy paint away with 1000 grit. I washed the body with light dish soap (just like I do lexan) before I painted it, let it dry over night, and put down a primer coat. Thanks. |
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10-28-2014, 08:37 PM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: We-Go, Chi-Town, Ill
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
What kind of prep work did you do before hand and did you use a primer that was compatabke with the paint?
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10-28-2014, 08:55 PM | #3 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Upstate NY
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
I like to use Duplicolor...primer and paint. Works well and lots of colors.
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10-28-2014, 11:10 PM | #4 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minden
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
I use a Scotchbrite pad on the primer coats and also on the finish coats so there is good paint adhesion. I also wipe the entire body down with denatured alcohol after I use the Scotchbrite pad to clean it and remove all of the dust and makes it a little tacky and it the paint sticks better. I'm also thinking the room temperature is too cold I looked at the rattle cans of Rust-Oleum primer and Flat and Gloss paints and they all say Temperature at 70* Degrees and 50% Humidity I'm thinking if you warm the room up to a high temperature it will lower the humidity Last edited by kgb424; 10-28-2014 at 11:27 PM. |
10-28-2014, 11:15 PM | #5 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: pacific northwest
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
Did you also keep warm the can in warm water? Also, spraying distance is huge with these
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10-28-2014, 11:34 PM | #6 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Minden
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
He doesn't say if he is using rattle cans or a airbrush, maybe the airbrush is setup is not right and its shooting to much paint.
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10-29-2014, 05:02 AM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Alabama
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
Sounds too cold and too heavy of coats
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10-29-2014, 01:49 PM | #8 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Token's life matters
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint http://www.amazon.com/Klean-Strip-BU.../dp/B002GUGH04 Prep, prep, and more prep. Then use this ass a base. This is by far the best product I have ever used when painting plastics. I have painted dozens of quads, dirt bikes, etc with automotive paints. Bulldog first, add a little into the paint, and it never flakes, cracks, etc. |
10-29-2014, 02:09 PM | #9 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
I usually leave about a day or two in between in colours too. Let the gases expel from each coat. Super important for adhesion.
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10-29-2014, 02:33 PM | #10 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
Sounds like its the temp more than anything, especially if the cans were cold as well. Anything below 60ish and the paint will not spray nicely, and will get "lumpy" Make sure the cans are left inside at room temperature before you paint, and heat the workplace to at least 70 if possible |
10-29-2014, 04:48 PM | #11 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Idaho
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
I was using Tamiya plastic rattle can paint (TS). I washed the body really well, and used a good primer. I do think the problem was heat, or lack there of. It was only 55 deg in my shop. I am hoping I can save the body. I figure I'll bring it in the house, let it warm up, and the paint should actually adhere. After that I'll try wet sanding the body with 600 grit, then hit it again with the primer, then back to the base color, all after warming my shop up to 70 or so. Thanks for the replies! |
10-30-2014, 09:56 AM | #12 | |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint Quote:
Sounds like you have the right idea, make sure the cans are warm, and shake them really good for a few minutes. Test spray on a box or something to make sure you are getting a good spray pattern, and its not spitting out droplets. I have gotten bad/old paint cans before that just wouldnt spray right no matter what, even after changing the nozzle. if thats the case get some new paint. Also make sure to post some pictures of the results Last edited by Kylar; 10-30-2014 at 09:59 AM. | |
11-02-2014, 09:48 PM | #13 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Idaho
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| Re: Thought a hard body would be easier to paint
Thanks for all of the advise, seems like the hard bodies and their paint is a hell of a lot more sensitive to the cold. I brought the body inside for a couple of days, the paint dried and adhered to the body. I sanded, washed and put a couple of coats on this evening, with the paint and body warmed up inside, everything went on nice and smooth and is actually looking the way I want it to.
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11-03-2014, 03:06 PM | #14 | |
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