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03-15-2015, 06:50 PM | #1 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: edmonchuck
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| what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
So ive tried tamiya ts paint on a few of my hard bodies and i keep getting this wierd problem. Dont know what to call it. Any body have this or know whats going on? I wash the body in warm soapy water before painting. Give it a wipe down with some alcohol and let it dry. Prime it and put some color and this happens. oh and i also pre warm the paint and make sure it is well mixed. Ill sand it down and wash it again. Let it dry. Respray and bam, same thing, same place. At this point im just not gonna use tamiya ts paints anymore, but still i would like to know what is going on. Last edited by J.Peart; 03-15-2015 at 06:53 PM. |
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03-15-2015, 07:29 PM | #2 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Streamwood, IL
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Is your primer and paint compatible with each other?, as in, is the paint a lacquer, and the primer an enamel, that could be a cause for that, or there was a damp spot in those locations.
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03-15-2015, 09:00 PM | #3 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oakridge
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Did you still have some spots of the old paint under the primer? If so, it's what Mike said two incompatible paints.
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03-15-2015, 09:27 PM | #4 |
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
primer i cant say, they never seem to have tamiya primer in stock here in town. the primer is used is a plastic compatible primer, thought it was an acrylic (tamiya TS is an acrylic enamel unless i am mistaken right?) but i cant find it on the can now, might have been imaging things. though i would have thought if it was the primer the whole body would do this. not just in certain spots. and no there is no old paint under the primer. brand spanking new body. Last edited by J.Peart; 03-15-2015 at 09:31 PM. |
03-15-2015, 10:39 PM | #5 |
I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Oakridge
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
So, maybe it is mold release they used when the body was molded????? Or parts of the plastics didn't cure right??? I'm with you, if it was paint or primer compatabilty why didn't the whole body do it.
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03-15-2015, 11:17 PM | #6 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: edmonchuck
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
strange. maybe it is mold release agent and the soap i used wasnt getting it off..
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03-16-2015, 08:26 AM | #7 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: West Alabama
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Did you scuff the body any so that the primer could bond properly
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03-16-2015, 08:46 AM | #8 |
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
It's definately incompatibility of the primer & paint. One of the rule of rattle-can painting: Use all the same brand and productline!
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03-16-2015, 10:34 AM | #9 |
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Yeah i Sanded the body before hand. ill be more carefull with my paint choice in the future I guess. |
03-16-2015, 10:37 AM | #10 |
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Ive been sanding it back down to primer as best i can and im gonna repimer and paint the whole thing with some different paint
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03-16-2015, 11:52 AM | #11 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Schwa
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Don't forget to always test paint compatibility on scrap material, before trying it on the piece to be painted. This will save you re-doing the painted item, but will NOT help you learn from past boo-booz
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03-16-2015, 12:38 PM | #12 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
if the primer isnt reacting in the same spots i would say it has to be a paint to primer reaction. I had the same thing happen once, strangely enough it was also with Yellow. Its very frustrating i know. Its a pita to sand it all down and start over. |
03-16-2015, 04:53 PM | #13 |
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Dawn dish liquid is best for washing new bodies (no fragrance if you can find it). Wash with warm water and then dry the body with a clean rag. Use a new piece of sand paper and wash it with the same soapy water too. If you're going to be handling the body much then you'll need to invest in some non-powder latex gloves too. But the best luck I've had with making spots like those go away has been with just barely fogging the areas with primer and allowing plenty of time to dry in between. It looks like you've painted bodies before for sure so you may already have tried this. Also instead of primer try using just cheep flat white Walmart spray paint. For brighter colors I use it instead of gray primer and it works great. I will say that the only times I've had issues out of paint has been with Model Masters and Tamiya, this has led me back to Testors time and time again. As for re-trying with what you already have, use a new piece of sand paper and wash it with the body.
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03-16-2015, 05:05 PM | #14 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: edmonchuck
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
Thanks. ill try dawn next time. Frustrating being so careful and still getting screw ups like this. Gotta say painting is not may favorite part of building rcs... |
03-25-2015, 12:01 PM | #15 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Upstate NY
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| Re: what is causing this paint defect. tamiya ts on hardbody.
I have always had good results from duplicolor sandable primer, on models and hard bodies. I do like to use duplicolor paint in conjuction with the primer, but the primer does seem to work well for any paint. Acrylic should not be used as a primer unless you intend to use the same brand and type to over coat, as stated above. Acrylic is good as a final clear coat, but only as a final coat. In building static models this is the sequence I always use if I'm planning to mix different types of paint... 1. Lacquers 2. Enamels 3. Acrylics Hope this helps. |
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