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Fishmaxx 04-21-2012 04:22 PM

2012 LCQ Status
 

After going to the current State Based Invite system the USRCCA recognized that some invites would go unclaimed each year, so the LCQ was born.

Since the LCQ started demand for those unclaimed invites has increased, from international drivers, new clubs and independent qualifier event organizers.

The LCQ also had some unintended consequence in that it devalued "Earned" invites through the traditional routes. For example the last 2 years 40th place in the LCQ (A comp that 95% of the top drivers don't compete) got you an invite to Nationals while 2nd place at events like the East/West Coast Championships did not.

Also its become extremely difficult to recruit 2 sets of Judges for basically the same class 2.2 Pro, and huge load on the event staff.

Last but not least 2.2s class was created as a National Level Class, and having a 4th full day of competition is a lot.

In the past Jason offered at least 15 slots for the LCQ, and ended up giving more for various reasons, and now that judges will be given invites, more invites going to regional qualifier events and the increasing amount of international drivers that is simply not possible any more.


Having said all that the reason for this post is I wanted give everyone that was "expecting" another huge invite pool going through LCQ a heads up because its NOT going to happen, and I can't really say for sure how many will available, and like I said before I don't like the fact the LCQ gives out more invites then true Championship events.


A final decision about the exact details about the future of the LCQ will be made AFTER all the invites have been given, judges recruited (Info Link:Here), and other classes scheduled.

Fishmaxx 05-09-2012 10:16 AM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
I am considering making the LCQ a separate event from National. It will be no different than any other Nationals Qualifier except it will be on the Thursday before Nationals with up to 3 invites being awarded. It will be ran by its own organizer, sponsors, judges, etc.(Think Crawlerpalooza, ECC or Battle Ground 2 days before Nationals)

I am open to making it a open to only those that don't already have invites, or open to all with invites going to the Top 3 uninvited drivers. I will leave that open to the Organizer.

If you are interested in organizing or sponsoring the LCQ on Sept 6th 2012 please let me via PM.

TURBOFEST 05-09-2012 11:12 AM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
What would be the difference from the way it is now aside fromt he fact that invitees will be allowed to run it? Why call it a seperate "event"...whats the thought process for this??

Fishmaxx 05-09-2012 01:21 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOFEST (Post 3723756)
What would be the difference from the way it is now aside from the fact that invitees will be allowed to run it? Why call it a separate "event"...whats the thought process for this??

The thought process is I don't want to run it, and I would like someone else to run it.


For Example:
Jimmy C is awarded the rights to the LCQ. He names it WHITE LOTUS TATTOO Last Minute Invitational. Just like any other qualifier event he is in charge selling tickets, sponsors, building courses, and finding judges. After the comp is over....he informs me who the winners were, and I will add them to the 2.2 Pro Main Event.

TURBOFEST 05-09-2012 01:31 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx (Post 3723966)
The thought process is I don't want to run it, and I would like someone else to run it.


For Example:
Jimmy C is awarded the rights to the LCQ. He names it WHITE LOTUS TATTOO Last Minute Invitational. Just like any other qualifier event he is in charge selling tickets, sponsors, building courses, and finding judges. After the comp is over....he informs me who the winners were, and I will add them to the 2.2 Pro Main Event.

Gotcha! "thumbsup"

helhedded 05-09-2012 01:43 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
smooth move, Fish 8)

SDS Customz 05-09-2012 04:21 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TURBOFEST (Post 3723756)
What would be the difference from the way it is now aside fromt he fact that invitees will be allowed to run it? Why call it a seperate "event"...whats the thought process for this??



Also the fact that there would be only 3 invites instead of 40

Fishmaxx 05-17-2012 10:18 AM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
I had ZERO interest for anyone else coming in to organize the LCQ, so that leaves me with 2x options.

Drop the LCQ from Nationals weekend, or organize it myself.


When I started thinking about organizing the LCQ I began to wonder if their is even enough interest in having it now the Judges get automatic invites and limited invites available, so I decided to make a feeler post to gather some information.


Here is what I am thinking from the organizer side of things.

Sept. 6, 2012 (Thursday)
30x Drivers (Minimum)
3x Invites
4x Courses
$30 Entry Fee

Judges need to be LCQ Drivers, or Drivers that are not already Judging 2.2 & 2.2s.
I don't want Main Event Judges getting burnt out;-)

Let me know if you want to drive, judge or BOTH in the LCQ.

What happens next is based on the interest....NO INTEREST = NO LCQ

jetboat 05-17-2012 10:37 AM

Are you still thinking running it Thursday? If it were on Friday I could help and I know some drivers that would run.

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helhedded 05-17-2012 10:40 AM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
I'd be allover the LCQ if I don't get a pro invite. Not sure about judging but driving yes.

JeremyH 05-17-2012 10:53 AM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
I'd be in for LCQ if necessary...

One question, does an LCQ judge get a 2.2p ticket if he/she volunteers?

Fishmaxx 05-17-2012 11:16 AM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jetboat (Post 3736382)
Are you still thinking running it Thursday? If it wereon Friday I could help and I know some drivers that would run.


It would HAVE to be Thursday.....2.2s and Scale Run will be on Friday's schedule



Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyH (Post 3736412)
One question, does an LCQ judge get a 2.2p ticket if he/she volunteers?

NO that would completely screw over the guys that already stepped up to Judge 2.2p

JeremyH 05-17-2012 01:44 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Ok, that's what I figured....just asking. "thumbsup"

4xFord 05-17-2012 02:32 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helhedded (Post 3736388)
I'd be allover the LCQ if I don't get a pro invite. Not sure about judging but driving yes.

Same here.

JeremyH 05-17-2012 03:37 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
So, then let me ask.....if someone judges the LCQ and they participate in that event, are they simply refunded their entry fee?

What about if someone isnt participating in that event? Still given back the entry fee?

Sorry for the question, I am just trying to figure out the details. BTW, I like the new format of the LCQ and the number of invites handed out! "thumbsup"

Fishmaxx 05-17-2012 06:15 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JeremyH (Post 3736826)
So, then let me ask.....if someone judges the LCQ and they participate in that event, are they simply refunded their entry fee?'
YES


What about if someone isnt participating in that event? Still given back the entry fee? YES

Sorry for the question, I am just trying to figure out the details.
No problem "thumbsup"


BTW, I like the new format of the LCQ and the number of invites handed out! "thumbsup"

"thumbsup"


With expanding the invites given at other qualifiers, and 2.2 Pro Judges getting invites its simple math. Even when I back out double/triple invites (Del Monte, SkaldidDog, etc), and inactive clubs there are 110 invites due to go out in July. :shock:

JeremyH 05-17-2012 06:52 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Excellent! Thanks for the answers Fish! "thumbsup"

greencrawler 05-17-2012 09:04 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
I would be interested in driving in lcq just the extra course time on the rocks, since I'm judging 2.2p don't really want to judge lcq as you mentioned getting burnt out "thumbsup"

Fishmaxx 05-17-2012 10:11 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencrawler (Post 3737349)
I would be interested in driving in lcq just the extra course time on the rocks

Jury is still out on whether or not "Qualified" drivers will be allowed. (2.2P Judge = Qualified)

We definitely need to give drivers trying to get into Nats 1st crack at the LCQ.

lowridinjuggalo 05-17-2012 10:30 PM

Re: 2012 LCQ Status
 
if a driver has a nats invite already what the point in him/her runing in the lcq?

i no this would be alot more diffacult for who ever does it all. but if u have a lcq y not let the 3,4 or 5 place people out of the clubs that are geting the top 2 invites run in the lcq.. that would put the more capable or lucker drivers in the lcq and not just joe dirt from down the street.. hope u can understand that lol

for example.. we have to have a run off, 2 states going for 2 spots at nats.. in our crawl off 1st and 2nd get nats invites. let 3rd, 4th, and/or 5th run in the lcq.. they would have invites for the lcq


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