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06-30-2009, 06:34 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Crawlin' in NorCal!
Posts: 417
|  Bully or Berg? Okay so I am going to take the leap into MOA. So I am going back and forth between these two axles. I am leaning more towards the bully just because of the price, but what I am wondering is what is the main difference between these two axles? Are parts too hard to get for the bully? Or am I even really going to need to get any extra parts with the new bully? Besides the axles what else should I plan on purchasing to make these axles "bulletproof"? Thanks for any input guys. Would post this is the berg section too, but I know that most that would respond there are way to biased, where as a lot of you guys seem to have worked with both of these axles. |
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06-30-2009, 06:53 PM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sin City
Posts: 1,344
| thats what makes the bullys the best. they are ready out of the box. bergs you should plan on buying at least 3 sets of axial stub axles, drilling the tubes for a servo mount, buying lockouts for the rear and rims that will only fit berg axles (the bullys use a more common axial offset, and drilling the gearboxes to clock the rear up off the ground. You also have to buy pinions for the bergs and they are metric only. |
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06-30-2009, 06:55 PM
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| Quarry Creeper   Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Folsom, CA
Posts: 385
| I don't have any personal experience with the Bergs but I'm totally happy with my Bullys. I have only had them a couple weeks but they have been through a beating. The only thing I can think you need to get with them in a steering kit. So far it looks like no one else has had any probs with these out of the box strength wise since the v4 cvds are in them. I know many guys running bergs and have been through axles front and rear, lockers, and started running modded axial stub axles to strengthen them. Bullys are cheaper right off the bat and comp ready out of the box. The only thing I can think of as a downside to the Bullys is the are pretty heavy and some guys like to run light rigs. Are you in Auburn CA? If your in the area, Swing by the Hobbytown in Folsom sometime. I always bring mine in to work if you want to check them out. |
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06-30-2009, 07:02 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Crawlin' in NorCal!
Posts: 417
| Right on thanks for the responses. And yeah I am in Auburn, Ca. I'll have to swing by some time I have yet to be to that location. Now I don't have any experience with either of these axles, but for those that do, how does the quality of work compare? Housing wise, do the screws seem to strip out easily or any other problems with either of them? |
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06-30-2009, 07:11 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Aurora Colorado
Posts: 348
| I just bought a new set of Bully's and they are sweet thus far.  I know allot of people who run Bergs and one of the more successful ones at comps told me to go with the bullys so I did and am very happy about it. |
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06-30-2009, 07:15 PM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: GILBERT
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i think the thing that i like is the normal width on the bullys. also the bullys are way beefier then the berg! | |
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07-01-2009, 01:44 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sin City
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07-01-2009, 02:49 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: On Da' Shelf
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| Well since this is the Bully Section I will say go with the Bully's   I went with the Bully's because of the narrower width and stuff like the high clearance knuckles, rear straight axles and beefier drivetrain. I am not krazy with them but they have held up fine to what I have thrown at them so far. And now with the Bully II's out and being cheaper it almost makes no sense to NOT go with Bully's!!!!! |
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07-01-2009, 02:59 AM
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| Tried my very best...  Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dortmund, Germany
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| Hello, i'm a "MOA sissy" too  . For the price of one comp ready set of bergs youcan pick up two sets of bullys. I'm driving the bullys now for three weeks and are very satisfied with them, means i can beat on them and they don't cry a bit, straight out of the box. Greetings from Germany Frank |
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07-08-2009, 11:30 PM
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| I like to #*&^ Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: sittin in the sky
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| i havent work with either but id say if i had to pick to buy them id go bully |
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07-09-2009, 12:31 AM
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| I wanna be Dave  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gold Bar
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| I am in the same boat--and I am pointing towrards the bullys |
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07-09-2009, 08:13 AM
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| Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Selangor
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| I like to bully other rig so bully is my choice.... |
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07-09-2009, 08:47 AM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Route One
Posts: 461
| Go Bully, better axle width I have a Berg, and a local rc crawler has the Bully. His only advantage is the axle width. HUGE ADVANTAGE come gate time. my berg seems like 3/4" wider and I'm too into scalers to spend $100 on offset wheels..... I play with toy Trucks and cars just for fun  BULLY |
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07-09-2009, 08:55 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson
Posts: 1,194
| Just build two rig like me so there is no question. Either berg or bully shoot even a HR is going to be better to drive than any shafty |
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07-09-2009, 09:57 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gold Bar
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| I have looked thru the specs on the RC4wd site and they don't state what pinions comes with the axle. Can anybody shed any light on this? |
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07-09-2009, 10:07 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 801-Utah
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 Bully axles are for sure the most comp ready axle on the market right outta the box...you cant go wrong IMHO. | |
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07-09-2009, 10:11 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gold Bar
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They only state "pinion included" on the site with no reference to the tooth count. I am sold and will be going with the bully's. My only concern is what I hear about the slop in the knuckles.. | |
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07-09-2009, 10:17 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 801-Utah
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07-10-2009, 01:40 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lancaster
Posts: 44
| I have been going back and fourth between buying a Bully Crawler or a Newage Berg. The only thing that bothers me with the Bully is the 4-8 days just for order processing from rc4wd. If i do break something I haven't already purchased I for sure don't want to wait 4-8 days for the order of replacement parts to get processed much less shipped and then transit time in shipping. When I order hobby items online most places I order from ship within 48 hours the majority process an order and ship it out the same or following day. I am going to order one or the other by Monday still haven't decided which one yet. Whats everyones experience with ordering both bully and berg items ? |
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07-10-2009, 03:41 PM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 801-Utah
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| if your worried order spare parts before they break.... RC4WD has always shipped my spare parts really fast. |
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