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Old 01-16-2008, 02:47 PM   #1
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This is next Rock Crusher, increased to 40 size

We will start working on the mold next week, we hope to ship mid or late Feb.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:09 PM   #2
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given all the talk of flat spots while the tire flexes, is there any thought to incorperate a sipe into the 40 series?

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Ah cool....something to try on the Super. Hope they're soft and sticky.
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Ah cool....something to try on the Super. Hope they're soft and sticky.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:05 PM   #5
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When are you going to start taking pre-orders?
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given all the talk of flat spots while the tire flexes, is there any thought to incorperate a sipe into the 40 series?
It looks as though the lugs have been spaced further apart...at least from what I can tell from the pic.
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Old 01-16-2008, 07:40 PM   #7
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It looks as though the lugs have been spaced further apart...at least from what I can tell from the pic.

Which should help a bunch!
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Very Nice... Looks like another choice for the Supers and the Larger Scaled Rigs...
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What will the overall diameter of these be?
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:32 PM   #10
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  • Outer Diameter: 7.56" (192mm)
  • Width: 3.5" (89mm)
  • Inner Diameter: 4" (101.6mm)

same as our MudSlingers 40
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Old 01-17-2008, 06:42 AM   #11
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Awesome! Hope that they are like the Mudslingers. I will deffinatly be buying a set for my super!!!
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Old 01-17-2008, 11:27 AM   #12
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Which should help a bunch!
X2....lookin better.
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Wow, these would be sweet for my future super build.
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:17 PM   #14
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Hello Hua,

I was really hoping you would make these tires! One thing though, the lugs seem quite shallow....kinda wimpy for such an aggressive tread design. Do you think you could make the lugs taller/deeper like they are on your 2.2's? They would look Much better and Much beefier that way (more flexible too).

PS: I've wanted to mention this to you for a long time. but I just never did. Anyway, and this is off the subject of tires, but could you, or would you consider adding the choice of an optional 17mm or even 23 mm hex size for your narrow 40 series beadlock wheels? This would be a great improvement and extremely helpful for everyone running big, heavy, over-sized, ultra-powerful super scale crawlers that get so much punishment and extreme use all the time. This option would add much more strength in this area of the wheels that it would greatly increase their longevity and reliability.

Last, while on the subject of wheels, a new, narrow 40 series wheel, possibly having the same design as your new "Rock Ready" 2.2 wheel with it's 'wide' rock ring design (but with 16 screws) and center hubs, or possibly the classic 8 or 10 hole design with the wider 16 screw rock rings would give us crawlers a wheel having a much more realistic, hard core competition look. Your 40 series Rock Star wheels are really a beautiful design but thats just it, the wheels and rings are too beautiful and 'blingy' to be sought after by most of the hard core, serious, heavy duty rock crawlers out there. This could possibly even be a dedicated 'comp' wheel incorporating the larger hex sizes mentioned above.

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Hello Hua,

I was really hoping you would make these tires! One thing though, the lugs seem quite shallow....kinda wimpy for such an aggressive tread design. Do you think you could make the lugs taller/deeper like they are on your 2.2's? They would look Much better and Much beefier that way (more flexible too).
Having the Deeper lugs would hurt them on the Rocks. They would fold over on themselves and give Zero Traction. Keep them the same as Mashers and Moabs are.

Deeper Lugs look more aggressive, but won't help replace the Moabs XL's.
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In my opinion the lugs do need to be deeper. As far as the lugs folding over on themselves, these lugs are way too wide for that to be an issue. Look at Huas' Slingers for example, those lugs are very tall but they are also very skinny, so they should be much more prone to folding over, however everyone seems to really love them. In scale pespective, the 1.9" and 2.2" Crushers have much deeper lugs than these tires do, and they have the awesome and 'mean' look that fans have been raving about. I think the the Crusher 40's are also intended to be a very aggressive scale looking tire, more so than something intended to be a full on comp tire that will 'replace the Moabs' or 'Mashers' in that arena. I believe Hua has other tread designs, and possibly compounds, in mind for that purpose. The comp guys will however, appreciate the larger spaces between the lugs that these tires have in the CAD rendering, but I would think more people than not will appreciate the deeper lugs because they better fullfill the gnarly and aggressive look that this design is intended to provide, which will sell them to lots of people.

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  • Outer Diameter: 7.56" (192mm)
  • Width: 3.5" (89mm)
  • Inner Diameter: 4" (101.6mm)

same as our MudSlingers 40
Narrower would be better in my opinion. Like 3" would be good. I have a set of the 40 series slingers and they are just a little wide.
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Narrower would be better in my opinion. Like 3" would be good. I have a set of the 40 series slingers and they are just a little wide.
A BIG X2 on that.

Personally,I like the skinny pizza cutter tires. Like the 38.5 x 11.00 TSL's or Q buckshots (38x10) in the 1:1 world of tires.

I'd vote for a 2 1/2"-3" width. These will be stickier than the Slingers correct? I think the Slingers I tested for you were the second gen. compound. Didn't you make a softer 3rd gen. compound? The Slingers I tested were good,no doubt but sticker is always better. I'd love to try another set of your tires if they are sticker. Somthing around the M3 compound.....or even MORE sticky

Loving the treads here,looks like they'll clean out well. Thats one thing us guys in the south have to deal with. Wet,muddy and moss cover rock. Tires that clean out well are a MUST.
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I'd leave the tread depth where it is...any deeper and the trucks power is wasted trying to deflect the tall lugs instead of going right through to the rocks where it's needed. I'd rather stay on the flat of the lugs, then the trailing edges when crawling.
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I'd leave the tread depth where it is...any deeper and the trucks power is wasted trying to deflect the tall lugs instead of going right through to the rocks where it's needed. I'd rather stay on the flat of the lugs, then the trailing edges when crawling.
I agree with you on the lugs. On the power issue,if your worried about power being wasted.....ADD power
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