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Old 01-11-2015, 01:10 AM   #1
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Default Radio Control Crawling Association Vehicle Definitions and Judging

Traditional Comp class Rulesets and judging - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Modified Trail Vehicles- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Unlimited Vehicles- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

General Event guidelines- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

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Old 01-16-2015, 03:44 PM   #2
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can you post the usrcca rules in a pdf format or word document the links dont work for me... thanks
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Hi team,

Just reviewing the rules and have a quick question about the traditional comp class rules.

Rule 2.1.6 no longer exists in the rules. They jump from 2.1.5.x straight to 2.1.7

Can you please confirm if 2.1.6 has been removed, or is omitted in error?

This rule (2.1.6) was to do with fixed mounting points for suspension.

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Interesting.
There is no 2.1.6 in the 2013 (2014) ruleset either.
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Old 01-26-2015, 02:50 PM   #5
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So, do we take it that rule 2.1.6 has officially been removed?

Where is the rules committee?
Anyone?

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What rule committee?
the only committee now is John himself.
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Old 01-26-2015, 05:29 PM   #7
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I released rule committee since things had stagnated and few were actually doing work. Rules have just been rolled forwards as I recieved them to keep all rigs in spec, I do not anticipate any material changes except for some tweaks on trail class that will loosen restrictions further. Once we get back in a groove and get a headcount of active clubs and members I would like to use RC ORVA to involve members with voting issues and rep elections. But as of right now I'm basically a dictator with a long term goal, having too many hands in the cookie jar was just hurting the organizations ability to move forwards. It ain't the rules that make it fun anyway, it's the hosts and competitors that really matter.
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One thing I am changing is the whole 3.4.3.6.4.1.1 listing crapola. It's gonna be line xxxx in document revision xx, and if something is removed it doesn't change the whole order and listing. It just changes the revision and maybe the line number. Huge problem of revising rules that I could never get changed by comittee or owners, so I'm only going to fix that nagging skip once. And it's not going to be renaming everything under section two!
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Aww crap, I really liked rule 3.4.3.6.4.1.1
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2.5.6 and 2.5.8 contradict each other. I would imagine 2.5.8 is supposed to be omitted?
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Actually, they don't.
2.2 Shafty has to have a body as per 2.5.6
Body has to be the required size as per 2.5.8

2.5.7 is duplicated, though.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:27 AM   #12
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Actually, they do. Read it a little closer:

2.5.6 refers to 2.3.6. (2.3.6 states 8" x 3" x 3" dimensions)

2.5.8 states 12.5" x 5" x 3"

Looks quite contradictory to me...?
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Actually, they do. Read it a little closer:

2.5.6 refers to 2.3.6. (2.3.6 states 8" x 3" x 3" dimensions)

2.5.8 states 12.5" x 5" x 3"

Looks quite contradictory to me...?

Pretty sure 2.5.6 is the MOA chassis dimensions.

2.5.8 is the Sportsman body dimensions.
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Pretty sure 2.5.6 is the MOA chassis dimensions.

2.5.8 is the Sportsman body dimensions.
No, everything "2.5" is Class 4 = Class 2.2 Shafty (Sportsman)

I believe the purpose of the reference to the MOA dimensions (2.3.6)
was to make it so there were smaller bodies allowed for both classes.
If a small body IS allowed, 2.5.8 needs to go away.
If a shafty has to have a larger body then (See Sec 2.3.6) should be removed from 2.5.6.
Make sense?
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I think the only reason 2.3.6 was even mentioned in the Shafty area was to point out the 2.2 Pro dimensions. Otherwise, the reference to 2.3.6 doesn't need to be there at all.

As far as I know, 8x3x3 is only available for 2.2 Pro.
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What are your thoughts JohnRobHolmes?
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The 2.2 Pro class has the smaller bodyless dims and the 2.2 shafty class does not allow bodyless and has the dims as outlined in 2.5.8. 2.3.6 is referenced to indicate what is not allowed, but I agree that it should be rewritten cleaner.
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I released rule committee since things had stagnated and few were actually doing work. Rules have just been rolled forwards as I recieved them to keep all rigs in spec, I do not anticipate any material changes except for some tweaks on trail class that will loosen restrictions further. Once we get back in a groove and get a headcount of active clubs and members I would like to use RC ORVA to involve members with voting issues and rep elections. But as of right now I'm basically a dictator with a long term goal, having too many hands in the cookie jar was just hurting the organizations ability to move forwards. It ain't the rules that make it fun anyway, it's the hosts and competitors that really matter.
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Sooooo, is 2.1.6 officially removed from the rules?

Reading between the lines I think that's what JRH is saying with the numbering system comment.
But would really like confirmation.
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If it's not there, it's not coming back.
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