06-07-2016, 09:00 AM | #21 |
RCP CRAWLERS Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Upland CA
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
I was thinking when you lose a clip and the body spins around or something like that. ...but usually it's no help at all I think intent is the question if you design it to go out of spec to give you an advantage than I would call the penalty. |
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06-07-2016, 10:04 AM | #22 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Near Boston
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
In my opinion this comes down to intent. Let's use the body as an example. If a driver had a stock body and he fell off a cliff and it caved in a bit, out of spec i would let that driver continue as it was unintentional and does not offer an advantage. If another driver cut all the supports out of his body cab so that when it flipped over the cab would collapse and let them drive upsidedown, i would call an out of spec penalty because it offered a distinct advantage and their intention was to let the truck go out of spec. It is still fuzzy but this is just my $.02. |
06-07-2016, 10:17 AM | #23 | |
Custom Carbon Fiber Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut :(
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
No fuzziness for me Quote:
Until theres a committee then I will be it locally Last edited by Robbob; 06-07-2016 at 10:20 AM. | |
06-15-2016, 07:44 AM | #24 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Under a Rock
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
I have witnessed mainly 2.2 pro/mod vehicles become out of spec during comps all the time...When it happens it usually happens so fast nobody even catches it but me. Is it even worth busting their head over toy trucks? Purposely designed to cheat or not. There are so many different one off rigs around you cant really police them all. Turns out if someone is so worried about trying to cheat it means they are lacking in other areas. |
06-21-2016, 10:08 AM | #25 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Le Mas Petit 81 France
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
The goal of this question is to be sure to stay a legal crawler. (Cf semi rigid frame) when you build your crawler, if in the end, people think that it is legal and that others do not, you're not sure to pass the technical inspection. So do hundred of km for nothing is not really cool and build its crawler for nothing worse. |
06-21-2016, 10:48 AM | #26 |
RCC Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: Folsom
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
Not sure what you mean by your statement. The consensus I've seen so far with every one here is... Make sure it meets measurement requirements and don't have a collapsible roof on purpose. Well you can try it but if it doesn't pop up into shape you take at least a 10pt penalty to fix it. IMO: I'm not sure why you would push it. |
06-22-2016, 01:04 AM | #27 | |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bavaria / Germany
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| Re: Flexible top chassis Quote:
Of course you can use it and perhaps without problems,but if you have a judge who does not like this,itīs very annoying for you.And thatīs something we donīt need,crawling should be fun and nobody wants to get annoyed | |
06-22-2016, 07:38 AM | #28 |
RCC Addict Join Date: May 2012 Location: Folsom
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
Just fyi. Tgenial you're an innovative thinker ive seen some of your stuff its great!
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06-28-2016, 07:46 AM | #29 | |
No idea what I'm doing Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Underground, CO
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| Re: Flexible top chassis Quote:
If someone unknowingly shows up at a local event with an out of spec vehicle, and the consensus is that it gives no advantage, I totally agree with you and say let them run. However I don't agree with someone showing up with something "Purposely designed to cheat" as you say. Hope that makes sense. | |
07-04-2016, 07:52 PM | #30 |
Try to Bend it Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth Australia
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| Re: Flexible top chassis
Easy fix,Cab flex limiters installed to prevent the cab flexing to a total distance of less than 3". This will mean the chassis will need to be designed taller and thus mitigate any perceived advantage. From all the discussion is see a very common theme from those that judge regularly. If it flexes to less than the minimum height, you will be teched and run the risk of getting a DQ. So you need to ask yourself. Does the risk out weigh the advantage? |
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