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04-10-2010, 04:37 PM | #1 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blacksburg, VA
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| Homemade rear steer lockout how-to
Alright boys, here's another seemingly decent option for a rear steer lockout. I've been pondering on this one since I saw one of the berg rear lockouts and had a go at it today. This is likely not the finished version...I might build a final version out of delrin tube or stainless steel, but here it is: Materials needed: - 9/16''x.014 brass tube (should be available at your LHS for cheap...could also use different materials in the same size) - tubing cutter - dremel - flat file Step 1: Remove the rear servo/servo plate/steering knuckles. Step 2: Measure the space between the axle housing and steering knuckle. Step 3: Use the tubing cutter to cut the tubing to the desired length and make the cut. It's best to cut slow to keep the ends from tapering down. Step 4: Use a flat file to file off any burrs or rough edges of the locker. Step 5: Use a dremel cut off wheel to cut off the steering arm of the knuckle and slide the locker between the knuckle and axle housing and re-assemble everything. Some filing of the steering stops on the axle housing may be needed...or you could remove the stops altogether. I chose to spraypaint my lockouts black so they blend in better (not shown, paint is drying). Excuse the crappy photos and before anyone points it out...yes my steering knuckles are dirty, but are squeaky clean now. So far this thing seems pretty sturdy even though brass is a soft metal. I'm planning on testing it for a bit and if it does get damaged, I have plenty more material or I could change to a stronger material, maybe stainless steel or aluminum. I'm doubting using brass will be an issue, but I'll keep you guys posted. If you have questions at all about this or if I need to elaborate on something, let me know. disclaimer: Yes, I know it's a blatant idea copy of an existing product for a berg...and this disclaimer is to avoid any kind of shitstorm that may ensue. This how-to is meant to be a cheap, easy, alternate way for someone to lock the rear steer without modding things like crazy. Last edited by jsowens; 04-10-2010 at 04:40 PM. |
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04-10-2010, 04:41 PM | #2 |
Quarry Creeper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: omaha
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UMMMM is this where the K.I.S.S. theory comes in. We all were over thinking this part of the truck. It looks like you blew it our of the water. |
04-10-2010, 04:41 PM | #3 |
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I'm very interested to see how this works. I thought of doing that style lockout on my rig but I thought with the rovers I would still get alot of movement. As it is If I put my tire in a bind with the lockout I have the steering knuckle twists like crazy and has almost broken a few times.
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04-10-2010, 04:45 PM | #4 |
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Haha, I love the K.I.S.S. theory. I've not had a chance to test it on the rocks yet...since I just made it a couple of hours ago, but just by using my hands there's no play whatsoever in it. It just wedges between the axle housing and the steering knuckle to keep the knuckle from moving side to side. The rocks will be the real test and my buddy is also running these on his creeper...so we'll see how it goes.
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04-10-2010, 05:15 PM | #5 |
Newbie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Irvine, CA
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I am very interested to see this mod in action. If the brass does crush or bent, finding suitable tubing should be a none issue.
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04-13-2010, 03:47 PM | #6 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: ST. George
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so any up date on this? looks like a good idea to me.
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04-13-2010, 04:59 PM | #7 |
Rock Crawler Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: waterville
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it works very good. i did this during my build for my rs10. i have tons of runs with them in and have held up great. mine are from pvc though. i didnt like the link lock out method, so this was my fix. i havent had any issues with them its cleaner then the link lock out. i have a comparison between the link and the tube lock outs in my build thread.
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04-13-2010, 05:06 PM | #8 | |
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04-13-2010, 05:11 PM | #9 |
RCC Addict Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Blacksburg, VA
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| Keep It Simple Stupid (I've heard other variations too such as Keep It Splendidly Simple) I've not had a chance to run my rig since doing this mod, but will be out at some point this week to have a test run. Glad to see yours are working out jwo. |
04-14-2010, 11:23 PM | #10 | |
Newbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Emmett, ID
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I was looking at making some lockouts like yours for my berg axle and while I was at it try it on the rs as well. hopefully you'll have run it with the brass by then so I know how it works. | |
04-16-2010, 07:24 PM | #11 |
Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: high planes desert
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Damn i've seen the berg one and never put 2 an 2 togh... NICE lock out.. I have the rods Knuc. to axle on mine and I actually got hung up on a rock corner almost built plates to cover them.. but K.I.S.S. |
04-20-2010, 09:23 AM | #12 |
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Got a chance to run these over the weekend and they definitely need re-made. The brass tubing held up really well, but the diameter was a bit small, it's the exact size that can cut into bearing races if you take a bit of a hard fall. I'm gonna re-make them out of a bigger diameter tube and that should cure that problem. If any of you guys decide to try this, definitely get bigger tube than 9/16''. Other than that, all is well with them.
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04-05-2011, 03:50 PM | #13 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Helper, UTAH
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I experimented with some 3/8s cooper today for this and it is working so far???
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04-05-2011, 04:54 PM | #14 |
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i just used 3/8 pipe its the perfect I.D and much stronger but it still tends to move so i reinforcd it with rod ends and a set screw. problem solved
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05-21-2012, 06:26 AM | #15 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Uniontown
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| Re: Homemade rear steer lockout how-to
Just did this one last night. waiting to get my white dots bolted up to see how it works. I have zero play left to right now at the rear knuckles. Should be way better now, the rear shouldn't kick out now on a bind.
Last edited by Churb; 05-21-2012 at 06:29 AM. |
05-30-2012, 08:17 PM | #16 |
Newbie Join Date: May 2012 Location: Syracuse
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| Re: Homemade rear steer lockout how-to
Thanks for this tutorial. My tire flexed enough that it caught on the end of the screw in the steering arm and tore a little hole. This is an awesome fix.
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06-04-2012, 02:30 PM | #17 |
Rock Stacker Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Uniontown
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| Re: Homemade rear steer lockout how-to
Update: First trip out, within 10 minutes, the driver side lockout somehow someway managed to work itself out and it would let the knuckle turn freely. Might not have made the piece of tube long enough but the passenger side worked great. When both sides were locked, it made a vast improvement of how the cat performed. I didn't find myself once needing rear steer, or missing it. |
08-02-2014, 12:58 PM | #18 |
Newbie Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: canada
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| Re: Homemade rear steer lockout how-to
do you have the exact measurement of the pipe? would help a bunch! thanks, Adam. |
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