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ferp420 04-03-2019 08:36 PM

my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
so i moded my front end i added a longer rod end to one side and made a new chassie side panhard mount and moved the panhard bar to the front of the bracket and that alowed me to brace off the panhard mount off to the upper link mount with a longer screw and another rod end the front end is real solid now with almost no bump steer and less axle swing i also mounted up a set of 2.2 hyraxes i realy like the way they look but they dont perform as well as i thought i was pulling off lines with the stock tires that i couldent with the hyrax but the stock tires just dont fit the wheel wells like the 2.2s do
so enuff babble hers the pics
https://i.imgur.com/fJyyDOol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NMIyVirl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8w7kciql.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mKwssY8l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IwYQKkUl.jpg

Crawl-N-Clod 04-05-2019 11:30 AM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Thats a pretty nice mod you came up with, what would you charge to make another chassis side panhard mount?

soze 04-05-2019 12:38 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
I like your approach to bracing that lower panhard mount!

Hvrc 04-05-2019 02:08 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
I like the brace on the bottom of your pan hard! Going to apply this to the gen 7!

HumboldtEF 04-05-2019 03:19 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Nice work, whats the long screw like 35-40mm?

I guess its a 2 for 1, bracing the panhard and adding double shear to the upper link "thumbsup"

I'll be rummaging through my spares to see what I can round up, I should have all these bits.

I'd be curious to see how 2.2's look, you got any pics?

ferp420 04-05-2019 07:49 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawl-N-Clod (Post 5925093)
Thats a pretty nice mod you came up with, what would you change to make another chassis side panhard mount?

now that i think about it i would move the panhard mounting hole down a 1/8 of a inch so i wouldent have to shave the servo horn down to get the angles alittle more parrallell i should have lined it up before i drilled the hole other than that i wouldent change anything i sugest makeing a cardboard templet then tracing it out on some aluminum i had to heat the aluminum up to bend it enuff to work i broke the first 3 brackets i tryed to make lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by soze (Post 5925138)
I like your approach to bracing that lower panhard mount!

thanks yo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hvrc (Post 5925165)
I like the brace on the bottom of your pan hard! Going to apply this to the gen 7!

like


Quote:

Originally Posted by HumboldtEF (Post 5925185)
Nice work, whats the long screw like 35-40mm?

I guess its a 2 for 1, bracing the panhard and adding double shear to the upper link

I'll be rummaging through my spares to see what I can round up, I should have all these bits.

I'd be curious to see how 2.2's look, you got any pics?


ya its a 35mm i never thought about the double sheere but ya a 2ffr on that for sure



https://i.imgur.com/fSmsXwbl.jpg

ferp420 04-05-2019 10:19 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
heres a short vid of the g8 with the 2.2 hyraxs
https://youtu.be/jAva5Bx6HE0



the hyraxs dont have foams in them there running my new tire suport system you can see the tires working but they only wrinkle they dont wad up and are still soft enuff to grip the rocks and will never get flat spots even stored sitting on its wheels with 2 other rigs sitting on top of them and they dont hold water ive run them on a20lb truck and this g8 and they work great they side hill better than any foam ive ever ran and are almost imposable to flaten out ill share someday when im done testing the set up or need a size i cant sorce my self and need some big company to step up and take over lol

Crawl-N-Clod 04-14-2019 11:14 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
ferp420, check your PM's

ferp420 04-15-2019 01:40 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
I took soon measurements and the bracket started as a 1 1\4" square piece of 1\16 thick aluminum imagine drawing a line of through the middle and then again from the other side so it looks like crosshairs or a x or what ever then cut down one line till it meets the other lines then bend one tab one way and the rest the other way
One side note the tolerances are tight so you need counter sunk screws for the panhard bar mount so it doesn't rub on the springs and also were it bolts to the original mount so it doesn't rub the rod end I'm uploading a quick video of making one so I'll link it once its done uploading
Also shows my shotty fab work up close lol
You may want to turn the sound down though there's a bit of stonerbabble going on lol

link to vid
https://youtu.be/o9FLQOecTGo

atholliday 04-23-2019 10:00 AM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferp420 (Post 5924660)
so i moded my front end i added a longer rod end to one side and made a new chassie side panhard mount and moved the panhard bar to the front of the bracket and that alowed me to brace off the panhard mount off to the upper link mount with a longer screw and another rod end the front end is real solid now with almost no bump steer and less axle swing i also mounted up a set of 2.2 hyraxes i realy like the way they look but they dont perform as well as i thought i was pulling off lines with the stock tires that i couldent with the hyrax but the stock tires just dont fit the wheel wells like the 2.2s do
so enuff babble hers the pics
https://i.imgur.com/fJyyDOol.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NMIyVirl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mKwssY8l.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/IwYQKkUl.jpg

What is the advantage?

mgputer 04-23-2019 10:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by atholliday (Post 5929587)
What is the advantage?

To stop the panhard mount from wiggling. It comes loose.

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ferp420 04-23-2019 04:04 PM

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also the longer panhard bar helps reduce axle swing its so minimal its not realy a advantage just makes me feel beter

Crawl-N-Clod 04-23-2019 11:12 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferp420 (Post 5929701)
also the longer panhard bar helps reduce axle swing its so minimal its not realy a advantage just makes me feel beter

I went a similar rout after I saw yours, I didn't have anything laying around to build a mount BUT i did have an old vaterra mount. I cut the panhard mount off the shock mount and used it. I had to make a new panhard link and had to cut the original mount off but it works like a charm.. I used the same hole on the frame as you then just drilled the other mounting hole for the mount.. going to brace up the axle mount like yours next.. steering link and panhard link align perfect and i've got NO bump steer what so ever through all range of motions..

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...17939bdb_b.jpg58378952_2085785034823727_8355567709945069568_n by Blake Love, on Flickr

ferp420 04-25-2019 03:53 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawl-N-Clod (Post 5929772)
I went a similar rout after I saw yours, I didn't have anything laying around to build a mount BUT i did have an old vaterra mount. I cut the panhard mount off the shock mount and used it. I had to make a new panhard link and had to cut the original mount off but it works like a charm.. I used the same hole on the frame as you then just drilled the other mounting hole for the mount.. going to brace up the axle mount like yours next.. steering link and panhard link align perfect and i've got NO bump steer what so ever through all range of motions..

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...17939bdb_b.jpg58378952_2085785034823727_8355567709945069568_n by Blake Love, on Flickr

right on looks factory lol i like sharing id3as and see were other people take them

Crawl-N-Clod 04-26-2019 10:31 AM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ferp420 (Post 5930232)
right on looks factory lol i like sharing id3as and see were other people take them

I hear ya, I was gonna go with the Wertymade mount but I just didn't see paying $50 for a mount and just happen to have the Vaterra one and it worked perfect. I need to get some longer bolts to brace up the mount on the axle. I'm waiting on servo mount bracket from HumboldtEF to properly get my servo moved (currently jerry rigged) then I should be done with the frontend modes unless something new pops up..:lmao:

SIK_BOY 05-06-2019 01:39 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
ferp and crawl, you guys did some good work. i have had my gen8 build sitting at idle for a couple reasons, one in which is the panhard set up. i actually am in the mind set to lower the overall rig down some which would require a modification to the panhard, glad i saw this thread today for brain storming.
crawl n clod, how did you end up modifying the vaterra mount? could you post up any other pics please...

Crawl-N-Clod 05-06-2019 07:21 PM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SIK_BOY (Post 5932669)
crawl n clod, how did you end up modifying the vaterra mount? could you post up any other pics please...

Sorry no other pics, if you had a vaterra mount you would see just how easy it was. All I did was just cut the mount off the body/shock mount. The panhard mount already has the two holes you need. You have to cut the original panhard mount off as it interferes with the new mount. As far as mounting the new mount use the first bolt in front of the shock and you'll have to take the shock loose and just drill your second hole. It sounds like a lot but once you have the vaterra mount in hand it all fall in place pretty easily. Sorry for rambling on..:lmao:

SIK_BOY 05-07-2019 01:40 AM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
sweet! that actually made perfect sense. ill see about rounding up a mount to try. thanks man!

Crawl-N-Clod 05-07-2019 07:57 AM

Re: my gen8 panhard bar mod and brace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SIK_BOY (Post 5932802)
sweet! that actually made perfect sense. ill see about rounding up a mount to try. thanks man!

No problem, glad I could help..


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