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olydemon 06-11-2019 12:49 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mgputer (Post 5941661)
Yes I run 3s in mine. Then it's about perfect.

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I agree. Picked up a 2200 small 3s pack today. Made a huge difference in the quickness. In the gen8 with the HH 27t was just perfect, like stock top speed with way more control. In the TRX it was awesome too, maybe a tad jumpier than I'm used to. Now I need to get a coupole more 3s packs. Considering another 2200 and then a large one... or more...

cul8tr 06-11-2019 04:39 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
I run 5200 3s packs. Our private trial is about 2.5 hrs. long and growing.
I just pulled the 17t out and installed the HH 27t 550 Trailmaster Sport.

svt923 06-11-2019 06:23 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by the_law_man01 (Post 5942035)
They're great looking parts, but, if you can find them in PETG, I would do that.
The Bowhouse skid is printed in glass filled nylon, it is way beyond PETG in strength.

The Club 5 servo mount, however, needs a serious rethink in material. I have seen videos where the mount essentially folds in on itself when using a really strong servo. It seems like a pretty good design but the execution is lacking.

olydemon 06-11-2019 07:32 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svt923 (Post 5942099)
The Bowhouse skid is printed in glass filled nylon, it is way beyond PETG in strength.

The Club 5 servo mount, however, needs a serious rethink in material. I have seen videos where the mount essentially folds in on itself when using a really strong servo. It seems like a pretty good design but the execution is lacking.

I picked up one of those mounts and the link kit. The mount lasted one session. I did email the company about it and they refunded my order. There is a metal version in production.



I ended up using their plate as a template and made my own from a 1/8" thick piece of alum. Works amazing now. Originally I was going to fill the front but it is stiff enough to not flex. I also re mounted my bumper on top of the plate and it raised it up just right.



https://i.imgur.com/C9vYsHy.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/PsJaUSW.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/m10972O.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/3KXwzhC.jpg

cul8tr 06-11-2019 12:21 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Dang I ordered the club5 servo mount and links yesterday.

olydemon 06-11-2019 01:11 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cul8tr (Post 5942247)
Dang I ordered the club5 servo mount and links yesterday.

The links are good... The plate is suspect in the blue plastic. Worse case is to try it and if it breaks contact them. They seem to have worked with a few people already.... or see about a refund/return now.



One word of caution if you do end up keeping it... One of the inserts that you use to mount in the front pulled out on my install. There was a bit of glue at the bottom of the hole that the screw bottomed out on. When tightening it pushed the insert out. I caught it before it went too far. The solution was to get a small drill close to the size of the bolt and sort of ream out the excess epoxy.

dezfan 06-11-2019 02:26 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Seems like a lot of work to 3D print when the flat plate mount similar to what made could be punched out for pennies?

redbarton 06-14-2019 10:14 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by redbarton (Post 5941947)
Long time lurker here...I'm thinking about buying my first crawler and I'm considering the Gen8 PACK. Has anyone tried either of the following:

Servo Relocation / Front Bumper Mount for Redcat GEN8 ( SLA Tough, 3DP ) https://ebay.us/yyXB3N

BWH-BRC-0010 BowHouse RC Redcat Gen8 N2R High Clearance Skid https://ebay.us/tO0eZM
Update: From a long term durability point of view, I felt the Gen8 might give me issues. I decided to buy a TRX4 sport kit instead. So, I wish you all the best success with your Gen8 rigs."thumbsup"

lridescout 07-02-2019 08:12 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
I would do the upgrades lined out in the build playlist I think a must have is magnet upgrade and then the tires sounds like you already had covered. Crawl on and good luck. I will be curious to hear on the electronics that's something I haven't touched.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...PJ-g5Dpf-HZ2aD


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soze 07-02-2019 10:52 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by olydemon (Post 5942116)
I picked up one of those mounts and the link kit. The mount lasted one session. I did email the company about it and they refunded my order. There is a metal version in production.



I ended up using their plate as a template and made my own from a 1/8" thick piece of alum. Works amazing now. Originally I was going to fill the front but it is stiff enough to not flex. I also re mounted my bumper on top of the plate and it raised it up just right.



https://i.imgur.com/C9vYsHy.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/PsJaUSW.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/m10972O.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/3KXwzhC.jpg
Saved me from buying that servo mount. Given that, the servo position is exactly what the Gen8 needs to get that draglink to be properly lined up, and minimize bumpsteer.

the_law_man01 07-03-2019 05:24 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by svt923 (Post 5942099)
The Bowhouse skid is printed in glass filled nylon, it is way beyond PETG in strength.



The Club 5 servo mount, however, needs a serious rethink in material. I have seen videos where the mount essentially folds in on itself when using a really strong servo. It seems like a pretty good design but the execution is lacking.
Glass filled nylon can be good as long as the proper parameters are used. Sounds like maybe they do it right.

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lridescout 08-23-2019 12:28 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
I am super happy with the following additional upgrades. Have options for the different terrain I think is a must. Bash on.

https://youtu.be/EbIB5qTaHRc

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crick0234 08-23-2019 06:26 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by brimdogg (Post 5939606)
A GREAT upgrade would be a Hobbywing 1080 ESC. That will help immensely with start-up, as would a better radio. If you don't want to spend a ton, I'd just get the ESC for now.

Otherwise I'd also say a good investment would be a better motor, I'd recommend a Holmes Hobbies Trailmaster Sport 550 can 21t or 27t.

ESC is about $40, motor is about $20. There is no way that you can improve the truck for less money on my opinion.

As far as radio, I really like my Spektrum DX5C! ($129 with a 5ch receiver last I knew.)

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hey man, i read this advice and went with the 1080 esc as my 3rd upgrade (first was the servo and tires) - boy was i surprised! the RC Driver YT channel was saying 'upgrade your radio if u wanna get rid of the twitchiness!' but i upgraded the ESC first and holy cow it was NIGHT... and DAYYYyyy. FYI peeps, u dont need to update the radio to get wider turn radius or get rid of the twitchy throttle - a 20 dollar servo upgrade and a $40 esc did the trick.

anyways, i updated the radio regardless :) went with a DX5c, went with a 4 channel reciever (btw i thought that was weird that the onyl two options it comes with is either a 4 channel or 6 channel reciever, when its a 5 channel transmitter). the 4 channel reciever fits better in the gen 8's reciever box.

I got a winch hooked up to it now, waiting on some lights for the 4th channel.

btw, i also picked up both the 21T and 27T trailmaster 550's. ended up using the 27T more since i notice i dont use topend speed as much. both great motors. a thing to note is the stock 17T will flip the truck at 100% throttle & 100% turn, the 21T will also flip the truck when turning @100% throttle, the 27T will 3 wheel it at 100% throttle when turning :) (all on 3S Lipo)

brimdogg 08-23-2019 06:31 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by crick0234 (Post 5957987)
hey man, i read this advice and went with the 1080 esc as my 3rd upgrade (first was the servo and tires) - boy was i surprised! the RC Driver YT channel was saying 'upgrade your radio if u wanna get rid of the twitchiness!' but i upgraded the ESC first and holy cow it was NIGHT... and DAYYYyyy. FYI peeps, u dont need to update the radio to get wider turn radius or get rid of the twitchy throttle - a 20 dollar servo upgrade and a $40 esc did the trick.



anyways, i updated the radio regardless :) went with a DX5c, went with a 4 channel reciever (btw i thought that was weird that the onyl two options it comes with is either a 4 channel or 6 channel reciever, when its a 5 channel transmitter). the 4 channel reciever fits better in the gen 8's reciever box.



I got a winch hooked up to it now, waiting on some lights for the 4th channel.



btw, i also picked up both the 21T and 27T trailmaster 550's. ended up using the 27T more since i notice i dont use topend speed as much. both great motors. a thing to note is the stock 17T will flip the truck at 100% throttle & 100% turn, the 21T will also flip the truck when turning @100% throttle, the 27T will 3 wheel it at 100% throttle when turning :) (all on 3S Lipo)
Very nice, glad I could help you out.

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djr01974 10-20-2019 01:52 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Anyone know what the stock pinion is on the motor and what pitch

mgputer 10-20-2019 01:57 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by djr01974 (Post 5971574)
Anyone know what the stock pinion is on the motor and what pitch
32p 17t

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djr01974 10-20-2019 03:06 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Thanks. I was going to put at 35 t in it do you think this pinion should work with the stock gearing

mgputer 10-20-2019 03:17 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by djr01974 (Post 5971595)
Thanks. I was going to put at 35 t in it do you think this pinion should work with the stock gearing
It's perfect on 3s with a 35t and stock gearing. It's a touch slow on 2s but the throttle control is great.

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djr01974 10-20-2019 03:27 PM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Right on thank you

djr01974 10-26-2019 12:32 AM
Re: Essential Gen 8 Upgrades
 
Digging through my box all I have is a 32 pitch 19 tooth. I’ll try that with the axial 35t motor. I’m thinking it will be ok


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