SCX10 steering for E10

[number9]

I've searched but never seem to find a clear answer or the threads go off on a tangent.

Can the SCX10 front axle shafts / knuckles / yokes be adapted to the E10 axle housing to gain SCX10 like steering? This stock steering sucks, even with the stops trimmed. There's got to be a fix for this, right?

[Smokin' Joe]

The cheapest way to get a good turning radius on the E10 is by adding rear steer. If you don't want to do this, you'll end up having to basically replace the front axle to get decent steering. This path ends up being fairly expensive--I went down this road and eventually did the full XR10 mod. This was quite expensive, but it gave excellent steering.

I'm sure you could adapt scx10 parts and use scx10 universals to get reasonable steering. It would be a little cheaper than doing the XR10 mod, but you wouldn't get as much turning radius. You could also try adapting another axle like the AR60 axle (wraith, etc) to improve steering. Also with the Gen7 coming out, you might wait and see how it's steering radius is with universals. It's possible you could easily adapt the universals from this to gain better steering.

[number9]

Hmm....so does the stock SCX10 steering suck like the E10 does?

[Smokin' Joe]

Pretty much.

[ferp420]

I used my e10 chubs and knucles from the rear for mock up on a set of custom ar60 axles so i would asume wraith knucles and chubs fit also im using wraith rear lockouts on the rear of my e10 they sead scx10 in the listing but were for a wraith i shaved the nubs down and they fit fine so again i dont see why wraith parts wouldent fit i would also asume that you could use the wraith cvds also just need 2 short sides i think the e10 axle might be a hair wider than the scx10 th3 rear scx10 shafts were a bit short but that might be the wraith lockouts 8 dont know i plan on going this route some day but i have yet.to touch the front axle on my e10 and i dont see any issuse with the steering it handles tight t3chincle stuff just fine i think the stock chassie link g3omitry is more of a issue than anything

[number9]

Hmm......really wondering how this kit with the Axial AX30464 shafts would work out on the E10

New SSD Pro Steering Conversion Kit (8 degree, 0 ackerman)

[Smokin' Joe]

Originally Posted by number9

Hmm......really wondering how this kit with the Axial AX30464 shafts would work out on the E10

New SSD Pro Steering Conversion Kit (8 degree, 0 ackerman)

You should be able to adapt that kit to E10 axle housings with a little work as it's not too difficult to adapt regular scx10 C hubs. My recollection is there are better universals out there for the SCX10 than the axial ones, so you might want to look into that if you decide to go this route.

[number9]

Well, I just ordered parts to do the Narrow XR10 mod. I'll post up pics / results

Axial AX80062 XR10 C Hub Carrier Set
Axial AX80061 XR10 Steering Knuckles Set
Axial AX30563 XR10 Front Universal Set (2pcs)

Axial AX80003 Solid Axle Set (just in case it wont work with the E10 axle housings)
Axle bearing set for Axial SCX10 - TRB-140001 (in case I have to use the SCX10 housings)
Axial AX30778 Zero Ackerman Steering Plate (2pcs) (not needed, wanted to try them)
Vanquish VPS07510 SCX/AX10 knuckle bushings (I've read E10 bushings are not same as SCX10/AX10)

[TheLetterJ]

Since you're that far into parts, you might as well buy some cases too. SSD D60's look pretty sweet and are reasonably priced.

[number9]

I bought cases - for SCX10 - but plan is to try and do it with the E10 housings. If that won't work, I'll just swap my E10 internals to the SCX10 housings.

[ferp420]

I think The e10 housing is about a half inch wider than the scx10 I had to shim the scx10 parts out to fit the e10 housing

[Smokin' Joe]

Originally Posted by ferp420

I think The e10 housing is about a half inch wider than the scx10 I had to shim the scx10 parts out to fit the e10 housing

I changed my front E10 c hubs to axial based ones a while back (after one of the stock c hubs broke). I had to shim the axial c hub for proper fitment, though I couldn't say if it was because of differences in the housings or the c hubs. I've since changed the entire front axle to axial based setup.

[number9]

Originally Posted by ferp420

I think The e10 housing is about a half inch wider than the scx10 I had to shim the scx10 parts out to fit the e10 housing

If that't the case, and I have to use the SCX10 housing, it should be sweet, because the XR mod (Narrow mod) does increase the width by about 1/2" over the stock SCX10 housing from all I've read. That would put the front/rear track width close to same

[number9]

Steering parts started flowing in today. Picked up some brass 1/8" pipe nipples from Lowes to make internal axle tubes (to stengthen the axles and give the chub screws something more than plastic to bite into).

One thing I did notice, is that the E10 axle housings are the same length as the SCX10 housings, I thought one was longer than the other? Any way, I've started working on doing the XR Narrow mod to the E10 axle housing. I know it can be done on the SCX10 housing from threads on here. I really want to try and do it on the E10 housing - plus my 2 boys have E10's and they are going to want steering like Dad's when they see how well it works, and I'd rather not have to buy SCX10 housings for everyone

I'm waiting on an M3 tap to show up Thursday and hope to have the axle done over the weekend. I'll post pics and details of the process

[Smokin' Joe]

I did have to create small shims when I attached scx10 based c hubs onto my Everest 10 axle housings in order to make them fit right. If the scx10 and everest 10 housings are the same width, then this was probably due to differences in the c hubs and how they attach.

[ferp420]

I did some work on my e10 rear axle today and while i had it apart a sized it up against my scx10 axl3s im building for anoth3r project and i have just under a 1/4" differance between the 2 the scx10 shafts have very little contact with the locker i used xr lenth shafts with a little trimming



Top shaft is stock scx10 shaft the middle is the one i modded and the bottom one is stock xr lenght my issue might be the wraith lockouts but ive read others having to shimm the scx10 axle shafts when using axial lockers in the e10 housings also so i have no idea why i needed so much longer shafts as everything inside the axle is from a scx10

[ferp420]

I havent touched my front axle at all except for adding a bunch of lead to it

[number9]

Originally Posted by Smokin' Joe

I did have to create small shims when I attached scx10 based c hubs onto my Everest 10 axle housings in order to make them fit right. If the scx10 and everest 10 housings are the same width, then this was probably due to differences in the c hubs and how they attach.

I am talking the bare housing - no chubs installed - just the housing, they are the same length.

[ferp420]

Funny mine are just under a 1/4" off with the bare housings next to each other i am running afte4market xtra peeeed scx10 axles so maybe thats why i dont know but seiing as how the scx10 parts dont drop in there has to be a diffe4ence

[number9]

Axial AX80003 Solid Axle Set still on the parts tree in the middle. E10 housings top and bottom. E10 was purchased 8-30-17



E10 housing on top



E10 housing on bottom