New super class requirement

[Kamikaze]

I would like to prepose that the rule committy consider making a 14" wb minimum for all super class trucks. No more stock ax-10's waisting time in super.

[BlueMonster]

I voted no.

The point of a super is few restrictions. I think a better route for people trying to run a 2.2 in Super class is agood sit-down talkin-to.

[Mnster]

I voted no also..

Just don't want to limit the super class any more then it already is.

Watching people with stock AX10's might suck but what else are they going to run in? Just going to say no you don't qualify for 2.2, drive yourself back home?

Obviously, I'd make it a one time deal run in super get your rig acceptable for 2.2. Like blue monster said good talking to.

[run2jeepn]

My first comp I showed up with a 2.2 with 4WS and a 13in Wheelbase. I couldn't run with 2.2's. So they let me run with the Supers. That would have sucked if they told me I couldn't compete. Hell I drove 3hrs to get there. I agree with Mnster. Make it a one time deal and if they want to compete again. make it 2.2 Legal.....

[jason]

3.7 - You cannot run the same vehicle in more than one class.

Doesn't this handle it for the most part?

[yukon635]

Originally Posted by jason

Doesn't this handle it for the most part?

no we have some that have multiple 2.2 and run one in super class. I would say no and to fix it, just place a vertical gate that is 15" tall

[ykcor]

shouldn't super class be anything that doesn't fit into any other class?
because of some mod that makes it have an advantage over the other classes , making it a super class.
if you fit into another class you can't be in super class.
what do i know....nothing?

[jaxcoffee]

Seems like a 2.2 unlimited class has a place.

Is it that adding another class to a comp creates problems with time?

Seems eventually the 2.2 unlimited class would replace the super class, since all the manufactures seem to be going in the 2.2 direction.

Sometimes you just have to go with the flow.

[Pooflinger1006]

Personally I think they should make 2.2 unlimited or modified class where you can have any mods to your 2.2 rig and up to about a 14-15 inch wheelbase and have to run 2.2 tires no more than 6 inches tall.

Then make the super class with restrictions like normal 2.2 just for bigger rigs, then make a Super Unlimited or modified class to where it just has to fit through the gates set up on the course. just my opinion it would give a class for everybody to run in no matter what they wanted to do to their rig and still have the stock classes with all the restrictions

[Nova's Ark]

We have a guy in TXRCRCA who has run his 2.2 in the super class twice now. 13in WB and rear steer. I agree that a 14inch WB should be the minimum and maybe even some type of a minimum tire or rim size requirement.

I am all for letting someone break the rules if it's there first comp. Someone's gas and time at least deserve the chance to compete and enjoy what it's like regardless of their ignorance of the rules. But after you have been informed of the rules and refuse to comply, have a nice day. IMO, part of the coolness of the super class is the larger rims, tires, and wheel base. There's already a 2.2 class, comply with those rules and compete in the 2.2 class.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by yukon635

no we have some that have multiple 2.2 and run one in super class. I would say no and to fix it, just place a vertical gate that is 15" tall

That is the same situation we have. People with multiple 2.2's.

I do like the 15" vertical gate idea.

Originally Posted by jaxcoffee

Seems like a 2.2 unlimited class has a place.

Is it that adding another class to a comp creates problems with time?

Seems eventually the 2.2 unlimited class would replace the super class, since all the manufactures seem to be going in the 2.2 direction.

Sometimes you just have to go with the flow.

Some of the clubs have huge attendance (50 competitors). To add another class means longer days, more work for the judges, and in general would suck. Maybe if it was the absolute last class of the day and it ran after the normal 2.2 and Super class were already done.

IMO, it's just a matter of time before the manufactures follow the money to the Super class. Look what Monster Trucks did for nitro and RC in general. The T Maxx revolutionized RC and nitro. Everyone loves big trucks. Super will catch on. To add an unlimited 2.2 class is a bad idea IMO.

[PinchFlat]

I don't let 2.2s run in Super class at all at UTRCRC events. When someone complains I just say that is not a Super and I'm not scoring it.

[jaxcoffee]

Originally Posted by PinchFlat

I don't let 2.2s run in Super class at all at UTRCRC events. When someone complains I just say that is not a Super and I'm not scoring it.

That's an interesting approach considering this weekends East Coast Championships. Austin wins in 2.2 and wins in super with a 2.2.

I wonder how those at that event felt about that?

[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by jaxcoffee

That's an interesting approach considering this weekends East Coast Championships. Austin wins in 2.2 and wins in super with a 2.2.

I wonder how those at that event felt about that?

Now that is funny.

Obviously the course is not very tough if a 2.2 won

I voted no. Design a course right, and there won't be any 2.2' s in it. They would be out the first gate.

Disclamer(if thats what you want?)

[jaxcoffee]

Originally Posted by holycaveman

Now that is funny.

Obviously the course is not very tough if a 2.2 won

Tell the other drivers that!

Austin finished -5 in 2.2

Second place finished at 34

And everyone else followed suit in the 30's, 40's and even 50's

I would say it was real tough.

[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by jaxcoffee

Tell the other drivers that!

Austin finished -5 in 2.2

Second place finished at 34

And everyone else followed suit in the 30's, 40's and even 50's

I would say it was real tough.

Wait a minute, now I said nothing about the 2.2 course. I said if a 2.2 won a super class, the course must easy,( or made for a 2.2.)

That said, I ran a super class with my 2.2, there were 2 sections that were impossible for a 2.2 to make, thats what I am talking about. If you throw in tight areas, the supers will suffer, where a 2.2 would shine. Sounds like course design to me?

[jaxcoffee]

Originally Posted by holycaveman

Wait a minute, now I said nothing about the 2.2 course. I said if a 2.2 won a super class, the course must easy,( or made for a 2.2.)

That said, I ran a super class with my 2.2, there were 2 sections that were impossible for a 2.2 to make, thats what I am talking about. If you throw in tight areas, the supers will suffer, where a 2.2 would shine. Sounds like course design to me?

See your point. It would be interesting to see what the others that were there have to say about the super course.

[Thorsteenster]

I voted yes. A super is just that, super. Not an Axial over stretched or 2.2 in costume. Even though I don't have a super, if I did I wouldn't want to want for a bunch of super wannabe's. If you can't run, oh well, if your going to come how ever far you did you should make sure your rig conforms to the class in which you want to run.

[Just Zach]

I agree, its totally course set up. If you set it up right there is no way a 2.2 can make stuff supers can. There is also stuff that 2.2's can make that supers can't.

I can also understand the annoyance though of people wanting to run 2.2's in the super class when the course is set up right and any 2.2 takes the time limit and doesn't finish. A poorly set up super might have the same problems on a course but at least they are trying.

[sloppy]

I say no it is super, it doesnt need more rules. we dont have any guys running super here but if we do get some.. I would set up the course for a super not a 2.2 there would be no compromise on course design to accommodate a 2.2 truck. so if someone wanted to try a 2.2 on a super course I would have no problem pointing them out by gate #2 if it takes a 15" vertical wall to kill the dumb ass with a 2.2 so be it.