1 rig / 2 drivers

[drumbeater]

What is the ruling on 2 drivers using 1 rig? This has been asked a few times in our club.

[Fishmaxx]

The rules don't prevent it, and even if it did locally I would let a newb, kid, wife, or friends try their hand at crawling. To prevent the whiners from getting sand in their ...privates.....I would ask the better or more experienced driver go first.

If you want your club to grow I would encourage guests, and allow them to shared trucks at least for 1 or 2 comps

[Rockcrawler]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

The rules don't prevent it, and even if it did locally I would let a newb, kid, wife, or friends try their hand at crawling. To prevent the whiners from getting sand in their ...privates.....I would ask the better or more experienced driver go first.

If you want your club to grow I would encourage guests, and allow them to shared trucks at least for 1 or 2 comps

I agree.

[MommaBear]

I know that's how I got started

[drumbeater]

That's the way I always did it but another club here doesn't allow it so I just wanted to make sure I did not make a mistake by letting it happen .

[4ONDFLR]

if only my club felt that way.... i bought my son an artr axial to go crawling with us and he really wants to comp but im sure most have read in my other posts my club doesnt run supers and the closest comp is 1.5 hours away and i asked them if we could both run the same truck in a comp so i didnt drive all that way to stand around but they told me no! each driver has to have their own truck! i hope one of them read this thread!

[renoirbud]

I used to make everyone run their own stuff, but it was my error.

I think there is something in the scale rules that prevent people from sharing trucks.

[4ONDFLR]

i can kinda understand scale... but in my case its a pretty much stock artr and wouldnt even really be competitive with their $1000 comp rigs. i just didnt want to stand around, and my son is 9 and never comp'd so i think he would be a pushover. i have all my money wrapped up in my super with no one to compete with so i figured we could share til i can build another truck but they denied me on that so ill just wait til next year when i build mine i guess!

sorry for venting on your thread. its been on my mind for a while and then i saw the subject

[The Real Dogman]

Very sorry you were denied, and more sorry for the club that denied you!! It is always in the clubs best interest to allow guest drivers on other competitors rigs. In fact you illustrated the reason why by saying you will wait until next year when you can build one to run. Whos to say when next year rolls around your family's priorities dont change and you can no longer build anything. That club lost you as a valuable member who just might have something good to contribute.
I never could understand the mentality 1 truck 1 driver. I say let anyone else drive the same rig, after all we are scoring/judging the driver not the truck(except Scale of course).

Shame on that club!!

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by The Real Dogman

Very sorry you were denied, and more sorry for the club that denied you!! It is always in the clubs best interest to allow guest drivers on other competitors rigs. In fact you illustrated the reason why by saying you will wait until next year when you can build one to run. Whos to say when next year rolls around your family's priorities dont change and you can no longer build anything. That club lost you as a valuable member who just might have something good to contribute.
I never could understand the mentality 1 truck 1 driver. I say let anyone else drive the same rig, after all we are scoring/judging the driver not the truck(except Scale of course).

Shame on that club!!

x2

[4ONDFLR]

Originally Posted by The Real Dogman

Very sorry you were denied, and more sorry for the club that denied you!! It is always in the clubs best interest to allow guest drivers on other competitors rigs. In fact you illustrated the reason why by saying you will wait until next year when you can build one to run. Whos to say when next year rolls around your family's priorities dont change and you can no longer build anything. That club lost you as a valuable member who just might have something good to contribute.
I never could understand the mentality 1 truck 1 driver. I say let anyone else drive the same rig, after all we are scoring/judging the driver not the truck(except Scale of course).

Shame on that club!!

thanks! maybe they will read this! its just aggrivating cuz i just got into crawling about a year bor so ago cuz i really liked the supers and now i cant run my super cuz theres none to run against and i spent $400 on a rig for a 9 yr old so he could partisipate with me and now that backfired! i am 0 for 2. guess ill use my $1000+ super for a backyard basher!

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by 4ONDFLR

thanks! maybe they will read this!

I hope they not only read this, but I would like to hear them defend their postion. Any club doing this at the local level is waaaaay off if they are wanting to grow their club.

We have 3 husband/wife combos competing in our area.....soon to be 4. Many of get together after the events for dinner. Sorry for the rant, but NOT letting a 9 year compete a couple times really blows my mind

[4ONDFLR]

they would let him compete.... but im the one driving the 2 hours to get there and i would have to stand around and watch. its worth it for me to drive to watch him but it would just make it soooo much better if we got to do it together. but i dont wanna sound like a whinny girl for posting about them (they will never let me comp again!)

[jetboat]

we have an unwritten rule, you can share trucks for a couple comps but after that we do ask that you have your own.

Excepton to that is if its an adult who is the "true" competitor and they are letting their kid drive. We do ask that the Adult go first so that they dont have an unfair advantage (although some of those kids can drive!). We have also been known to waive the entry fee for a kid to compete if their parent paid (entry fee events only of course) and we have also let a fee out of spec trucks slide.

It really is in the clubs best interest to let as many compete as possible. I can see them not wanting to do it if they run a points series but, in that instance they should consider only allowing 1 score to count.

[Greatscott]

I'm assuming you charge the entry fee for each driver, and not for just the truck?

[Tattoo John]

This sport is kick ass.

['04 Rubicon]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

I hope they not only read this, but I would like to hear them defend their postion. Any club doing this at the local level is waaaaay off if they are wanting to grow their club.

We have 3 husband/wife combos competing in our area.....soon to be 4. Many of get together after the events for dinner. Sorry for the rant, but NOT letting a 9 year compete a couple times really blows my mind

Ok then. It was our club. We advised Mitchell of that based on an earlier decision in the series. It originated because we had two guys that wanted to share a rig. It was discussed by the club and agreed that it would be unfair to let one person watch and learn from the other guy and then compete with the same truck. Due to not letting them, we set precedence, be it wrong or right, the "ground rule" had been set. Therefore I felt I couldn't pick and choose who we let do this. It is a points series and the members didn't like two people sharing a truck. I understand that a father/young son pair is different than two grown men and that we possibly need to put such a stipulation in to allow that, which I will investigate. However, we in NO way will completely deny a child to run a rig.

Our club does a lot to accomodate and help everyone that we can in this hobby and grow the sport. I personally have donated much time, effort, and money into our club and to see others read things about it without the facts, well.... The way this topic has come up and now been misconstrued bothers me.

I think everyone needs to understand the situation before shaming a club.

[sddill]

I don't see how you guys think that one guy watching another compete and then running the same rig is an unfair advantage What if 2 guys built identical trucks ?? Would that be unfair ????

[4ONDFLR]

Originally Posted by '04 Rubicon

Ok then. It was our club. We advised Mitchell of that based on an earlier decision in the series. It originated because we had two guys that wanted to share a rig. It was discussed by the club and agreed that it would be unfair to let one person watch and learn from the other guy and then compete with the same truck. Due to not letting them, we set precedence, be it wrong or right, the "ground rule" had been set. Therefore I felt I couldn't pick and choose who we let do this. It is a points series and the members didn't like two people sharing a truck. I understand that a father/young son pair is different than two grown men and that we possibly need to put such a stipulation in to allow that, which I will investigate. However, we in NO way will completely deny a child to run a rig.

Our club does a lot to accomodate and help everyone that we can in this hobby and grow the sport. I personally have donated much time, effort, and money into our club and to see others read things about it without the facts, well.... The way this topic has come up and now been misconstrued bothers me.

I think everyone needs to understand the situation before shaming a club.

i didnt post in here to start crap or talk crap about our club! i hope it wasnt taken that way. i think its an awesome club and i understand bout the point series. and i never said that you wouldnt let him run. i wasnt even trying to compete for points nor is he. we wanted to cuz we enjoy crawling! it gets him outside and away from video games. i coulkd care less about points in the 2.2 class. like i stated before i just wanted something to do so i didnt have to stand around all day. but ive just decided not to worry bout it and just let him do his thing. maybe i can help judge or somethin. thats if im even welcome back.... apparently this has been taken for more than it was and i pissed people off. if i did i appologise.

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by '04 Rubicon

Ok then. It was our club. We advised Mitchell of that based on an earlier decision in the series. It originated because we had two guys that wanted to share a rig. It was discussed by the club and agreed that it would be unfair to let one person watch and learn from the other guy and then compete with the same truck. Due to not letting them, we set precedence, be it wrong or right, the "ground rule" had been set. Therefore I felt I couldn't pick and choose who we let do this. It is a points series and the members didn't like two people sharing a truck. I understand that a father/young son pair is different than two grown men and that we possibly need to put such a stipulation in to allow that, which I will investigate. However, we in NO way will completely deny a child to run a rig.

Our club does a lot to accomodate and help everyone that we can in this hobby and grow the sport. I personally have donated much time, effort, and money into our club and to see others read things about it without the facts, well.... The way this topic has come up and now been misconstrued bothers me.

I think everyone needs to understand the situation before shaming a club.

Regardless of the reason you put the rule in the net effect was a 9 year old was not allowed to experience competitive crawling. The only way your club would have been misrepresented was if that wasn't a rule, and clearly it was. '04 and the other VACOR guys I have met are GREAT guys, and it wasn't my intention to make them look like bad guys. I do however disagree with their decision.

Originally Posted by sddill

I don't see how you guys think that one guy watching another compete and then running the same rig is an unfair advantage What if 2 guys built identical trucks ?? Would that be unfair ????

Ditto....I know several guys that drive identical trucks, so I guess we need to start handing out blind folds for those guys