somewhat interesting topic

[fuzzhead]

Lately I (and the rest of us) have been noticing that burns/digs/whatever the hell you want to call thems are becoming more common to 2.2 crawlers (tlts specifically). now with that advantage i ask. with people running rear disconnects is it fair to still limit the ones without to just front wheel steering? I think that if you are going to operate a class that allows the use of digs and burns that the said class should allow rear steer for those that do not set up a disconnect system.

This seems fair to me. Whether it does to you, I guess we will find out.

POST UP YOUR OPINIONS PLEASE! WE WANT TO HEAR THEM!


thanx

[skipstr71]

As far as I see it, there should be a scaled class and an unlimited class for 2.2 where anything goes.. as long as the rims are a 2.2...

[dezfan]

Originally Posted by skipstr71

As far as I see it, there should be a scaled class and an unlimited class for 2.2 where anything goes.. as long as the rims are a 2.2...

I agree (not sure this is the place to post it. There is already a thread for discussing rules) to a point. I think there should be a spec 2.2 class. 2.2 wheels, 5.5 tall inch tires max, front steer, no burn ability, 12.5 w/b, ect. The limited 2.2 class would allow burn capability, 4ws, but maintain the 5.5 inch tire (this is to prevent the larger tires mounted on 2.2 inch wheels from being run in the 2.2 class and in essance turn them into super crawlers on little wheels) and 2.2 wheels. It might be time to divide the class. I'm sure that many will disagree. But that is my opinion.

[fuzzhead]

well where i live "classes arent a problem" not enough people to really have comps. but i think its a valid point. for so long 4ws was not allowed. it was said you dont need it. but once you try it you like it. the rule was originally made to help keep cost down. but the cost thing is out the window these days.

I really like the two class idea. There is beginning to be a bigger seperation between the more scale looking crawlers as compared to the all out comp rigs we see. The differences are getting to a point where a seperate class would be appropriate. Not saying that the scale guys couldnt compete in unlimited, but at least give them the option to maybe have a bit easier course or a few rule adjustments.

[TwistedCreations]

TSC allows 4wheel steering. We are in the process of thinking of bringing on a scale class also.


Moved to rules also

[fuzzhead]

thanx jeremy. just thought id stick it in general so more people would see it. kinda hidden away in here.

[jeepster26104]

I don't think that front digs is a reason to bring on rear steer. Wait til you non diggers with rear steer meet up with someone with rear steer and ability to dig.

Seperate the classes to 2.2 and super 2.2. Don't ruin the 2.2 class. Rules force people to find ways around them, which is where alot of these innovations come from.

[JohnRobHolmes]

i say let it all be fair and legal. When it becomes a problem for your area, seperate into scale and super 2.2 classes.

[microgoat]

The way I see it, the 2.2 diggers are just trying to level the playing field with the 2.2 Clods, who have been able to do it all along.

If we're going to split the 2.2 class, it should go like this:

2.2 Super: All 2.2 Clods, all diggers, all 4ws, anythings goes in this class. Run what ya brung.
2.2 Scale: Shafties only, 2ws only. This would be the structured class. Diggers could run in the Scale class if they lock out the dig mechanism or unplug the servo. Same for 4ws.

[Fishmaxx]

Originally Posted by fuzzhead

Lately I (and the rest of us) have been noticing that burns/digs/whatever the hell you want to call thems are becoming more common to 2.2 crawlers (tlts specifically)

COMMON..........did I miss something? I have yet to see a working disconnect system.

I know a few are in development, but common??????

I have a dig system on my 2.2 clod, and I also can run rear steer. If I had to choose I would take rear steer and it wouldn't be a hard decision. Rear steer is far superior to rear dig

I don't think the Official Rules will divide up the classes any further. Local clubs should decide dig/no dig, and rear steer for themselves!

[FrankyRizzo]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

COMMON
I don't think the Official Rules will divide up the classes any further. Local clubs should decide dig/no dig, and rear steer for themselves!

I agree.

[ColquittCustom405]

Originally Posted by microgoat

The way I see it, the 2.2 diggers are just trying to level the playing field with the 2.2 Clods, who have been able to do it all along.

If we're going to split the 2.2 class, it should go like this:

2.2 Super: All 2.2 Clods, all diggers, all 4ws, anythings goes in this class. Run what ya brung.
2.2 Scale: Shafties only, 2ws only. This would be the structured class. Diggers could run in the Scale class if they lock out the dig mechanism or unplug the servo. Same for 4ws.

I agree, you need to have a limit on what qualifies it as a 2.2 with those kind of mods,etc...........