The 2006 rules have a screw up

[TwistedCreations]

I was looking at the 2006 rules. For the 2.2 class, it states that Vehicle Track Width is a maximum of 12.5" for that class. Now down under Glossary of terms, It says that Vehicle Track width is measured from outside of tire to outside of tire.

That is wrong, that would be considered "Overall width" . The Track width would be measured from center of tire to center of tire, or outside of one tire to the inside of the other tire.


Just letting whoever types those rules out, that it needs to be changed.

Also, this is pulled from the following website about measuring track width. Just to show the rules committee

http://hometown.aol.com/varfee/masts...ack_width.html

This measurement may be recorded by placing the tape measure in a number of postions across the tracks. The selection of tape placement will depend upon the quality of the track as it appears at the scene. Chose the tape placement that would result in the most accurate recording of the track width. Look for the most well defined edges of the tracks, and measure across these points.

Each of the following tape measure placements will produce the track width:

Center rib on one track to center rib of the other track.
Outside of one track to inside of other track.
Inside of one track to outside of the other track.
Inside of one track to inside of the other track plus the width of one track.
Outside of one track to outside of the other track minus the width of one track.

[badger]

Jesus H Christ! What kind of ****ing crack team do we have writing these rules if our token hick can find errors?

[EeePee]

Crack tokin hick!

[TwistedCreations]

Hey now. I may be a crack tokin hick, but at least I know the difference between track width and overall width. Maybe you need more hicks to write the rules for you guys

[Fishmaxx]

I don't think its a matter of right or wrong.

The example used by TC is the method of how that particular police dept enforces their laws.

NASCAR for example in its glossary of terms says:
Track: The measure from the outside of a car's right-side tire to the outside of the left-side tire.
Nascar Link

So, I guess we are using the same measuring points as NASCAR

[TwistedCreations]

But stated from Nascar, that is just the track. In which they are talking overall track width, since all their cars have to be the same width. The actual track width is measured in the middle of the tires though or from outside of one side to the inside of the other. Same way you do an alingment on a SA truck. you mark the track width in the center of the tire( front and back of tire) and measure the distances between the two.

With the way the rules are written there, you will have some people making their track width at 12.5" and actually being 14" wide overall.

But whatever you guys want to call track width go for it.. everyone calls something different.

[JasonInAugusta]

Interesting topic.

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/rcpro/rc-dictionary.html#T
Track Width -- The width of the car, measured from the center of the front axis wheels and the rear axis wheels.

http://www.4wheelonline.com/superlift_glossary.htm
Track width - The measurement from outside of tire-to-outside of tire.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/track+
5 a : the width of a wheeled vehicle from wheel to wheel and usually from the outside of the rims

[PinchFlat]

Originally Posted by TwistedCreations

I was looking at the 2006 rules. For the 2.2 class, it states that Vehicle Track Width is a maximum of 12.5" for that class. Now down under Glossary of terms, It says that Vehicle Track width is measured from outside of tire to outside of tire.

That is wrong, that would be considered "Overall width" . The Track width would be measured from center of tire to center of tire, or outside of one tire to the inside of the other tire.


Just letting whoever types those rules out, that it needs to be changed.

Also, this is pulled from the following website about measuring track width. Just to show the rules committee

http://hometown.aol.com/varfee/masts...ack_width.html

From what I can tell the rules use the term "track width" and then give a definition what the rules mean by "track width".

The rules could say: Vehicle "Total" Width is a maximum of 12.5"... and then under Glossary of terms, it could say that Vehicle "Total" width is measured from outside of tire to outside of tire. or Vehicle "whiney-jack-a$$" Width is a maximum of 12.5"... and then under Glossary of terms, it could say that Vehicle "whiney-jack-a$$" width is measured from outside of tire to outside of tire.

The rules simply use a term then clarify that term used. I don't see the issue here.

[JasonInAugusta]

Holy chit...

I just measured my TLT, it's at 10" wide.

I couldn't imagine a 2.2 at 12.5" overall, let alone 12.5" on center.

I think the 12.5" rule is good for an overall track width.

[EeePee]

Just take out the word track. Overall width cannot exceed 12.5 inches.

My TLT with G-Made wideners and Mashers on HPI Split 5s is 11 inches exactly measured from outside to outside. Another inch and a half would be retarded.

[Fishmaxx]

I will say it again its not a matter of wrong or right! Many examples can prove both sides point.

As long as the method of measurement is defined with in the Rules there should be no problems.

[JasonInAugusta]

...and if anyone wants to make their 2.2 that wide...go for it!

Just put a "Wide Load" decal on the front and rear bumpers.

[Fishmaxx]

Yeah now that you guys mention it a crawler with a 14 inch width would be ridiculous.

My 2.2 Clod and CSR's 2.2 TXT are over 12 inchs wide, and I think its a serious disadvantage! Squeezing through gates, and more chunking out are huge disadvatages we have. Going to 14 inchs would be even worse!
Along with the fact the rules are very clear on how width is determined, so its really a non-issue.

However, if we have a rash of 14 wide trucks being built, and showing up at Comps in 2006 the Rules Comittee will address it for the 2007 update

[TwistedCreations]

Hell, didn't mean to stir the damn pot... Didn't realize that so many people measured track width differently. I know that every dealership and such that I have worked for measured it that way. Just figured it should be changed to overall width..But like Fishy said, as long as it is mentioned that you guys measure it that way, I doubt there may be problems..

[ILoveRCRockCrawlin]

Well my stick pede is 13" wide. What class is that suposed to be in? Super? Its got 2.2s.

[TwistedCreations]

I think would still fall in the super class then since you don't meet the 12.5 limit

[EeePee]

I have a premonition: 2.2 Maxx trucks pushing the width limit. Diff clearance is a non issue, and the width will help, and if 4ws is allowed, they can turn, or squeeze through gates.

[TwistedCreations]

you would have to narrow the maxx down to fit into that class. The old style is 12" WMS-WMS

[rambuller84]

Originally Posted by EeePee

I have a premonition: 2.2 Maxx trucks pushing the width limit. Diff clearance is a non issue, and the width will help, and if 4ws is allowed, they can turn, or squeeze through gates.

TC "you would have to narrow the maxx down to fit into that class. The old style is 12" WMS-WMS"

That's all I'm gonna say..

[microgoat]

Originally Posted by EeePee

My TLT with G-Made wideners and Mashers on HPI Split 5s is 11 inches exactly measured from outside to outside. Another inch and a half would be retarded.

Originally Posted by ILoveRCRockCrawlin

Well my stick pede is 13" wide. What class is that suposed to be in? Super? Its got 2.2s.

Point made