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Old 02-28-2011, 05:25 PM   #1
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(1).
First the new body panel dimension rules, I'm assuming that the 3.5 square inches is for 1.9 class as well. If the hood panel extends all the way thought the cab to form a single peace on the hood and trunk, is all of it considered in the panels dimensions or is just the portion that is not in the cab?

You can see in this picture how the panel covers the entire cab area and trunk. I designed this before the rule change and I'm just trying to see if I need to redesign the chassis for legality reasons. As it sits the portion that extends from the cab forward is 3 square inches when measured with a ruler.



(2).
Second question is pertaining the the cab measurements I've. Everyone that I've had look at the rig says it's legal except one person thus far. I need an official ruling so that if it's not legal I can fix the design and send out replacements to my customers.

My understanding is that for the 1 inch tall measurement, you take the point where the hood meats the cab as the horizontal plain to base your measurement from. From that plain there the cab must measure at least 1 inch as shown by (C). I was informed that, that was incorrect and that the measurement is taken vertically from where the a pillar connects from the roof to the cab as shown in measurement (B).



I would really appreciate some input on this.

Thanks,

Adam

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Old 03-04-2011, 08:52 PM   #2
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Can I get some help here please?
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c'mon 100 views, can someone please give help with an answer, a few minutes of your time.
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No worries, I just redesigned a new cab as a replacement for my customers and will be sending it out next week so regardless of the out come here, it will be good. But still, an answer would be nice for future clarification. I've noticed another 1.9 cab that looks questionable if this rule is interpreted this way.
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:38 PM   #5
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Any clarification on this yet? Im patiently waiting.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:41 AM   #6
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Either the rules committee hasn't seen this thread to comment, or, they feel the question has been so "beaten to death" that they don't feel the need to comment.

Maybe PM fishmaxx or others and direct them here??
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:04 PM   #7
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I guess poeple are just really busy lately,I know I am.
Kinda wierd nobody from the rules commitie has chimed in,its been over a month?

You have a valid question,and a clear drawing,making your question simple to understand,and answer.

the hood section is good to go if it has the 3 square inches.

the roof measurment should be from point b IMO the way I read the rules.

If your working on a new design,It would really be nice for a commitie member to clarify so your time and effort is not wasted.

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I guess people are just really busy lately,I know I am.
Kinda weird nobody from the rules commitie has chimed in,its been over a month?

You have a valid question,and a clear drawing,making your question simple to understand,and answer.

the hood section is good to go if it has the 3 square inches.

the roof measurment should be from point b IMO the way I read the rules.

If your working on a new design,It would really be nice for a commitie member to clarify so your time and effort is not wasted.
I didn't want to keep my customers waiting and wondering so I already ate the cost and designed and shipped out replacement cabs to remove the "grey area" so no one gets DQ'd at a comp. It would just be nice to know for future reference.

To me it seams like a simple question but perhaps they need to discuss it and come to a consensus since there seams to be differing opinions on all levels.
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Either the rules committee hasn't seen this thread to comment, or, they feel the question has been so "beaten to death" that they don't feel the need to comment.

Maybe PM fishmaxx or others and direct them here??
If it was beaten to death it was before my time and I can find no record of it via search.

As for the not noticing? Who knows. I PM's Fish off the bat before posting it here and got no reply. I know he's busy and didn't want to PM bomb his in-box. I'm just being patient. I don't want to be a pest.

If there's no answer by the time I done moving, I'll PM him again.
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In the future its best to go to someone on RC that in your area that way one person dosn't get over whelmed with questions.


I will post in RC right now.

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Sorry I missed this, Measurement B has to be 1 inch min. to be legal
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Sorry I missed this, Measurement B has to be 1 inch min. to be legal
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also you cannot exaggerate a panel measurement to meet min requirements so you longer hold would fail as well.
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also you cannot exaggerate a panel measurement to meet min requirements so you longer hold would fail as well.
So it's only the portion of the hood that doesn't pass through the cab then? If so, that's an easy fix, just have to make the nose 1/4in wider to measure in.
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So it's only the portion of the hood that doesn't pass through the cab then? If so, that's an easy fix, just have to make the nose 1/4in wider to measure in.
Correct.
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I hate to bring this up again, and I know Ricky has already given the ruling, but I'm seeing other designs showing up that seem to be following the "top of roof" measurement...Measurement "C" in the drawing. One good example:

New BWD Proto XR Chassis...Unveiled at Crawlapalooza 2011

I'm not trying to single Don out, but he has great examples of what I'm talking about. We had a pretty long discussion about it in his AX-10 thread:

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/axial...-bodiless.html

Fish gave his interpretation of the "Overall Height" ruling here:

http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/rules...ml#post2346720

It's showing to the highest point of the roof line.

I have pending design changes, and really need to know what the final say is on this before I can go any further. Thanks in advance.

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Measure Ready to run

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Measure Ready to run

I think c*h*u*d is referring to the 1" minimum required from the hood to the cab where they intersect.
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Sorry I missed this, Measurement B has to be 1 inch min. to be legal
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The other vehicles in question have NOT been reviewed by Rules Committee, so I can neither confirm or deny their legality.

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The other vehicles in question have NOT been reviewed by Rules Committee, so I can neither confirm or deny their legality.
Thanks for clearing it up. Should chassis' be submitted to the Rules Committee for review and approval? I've never done that, but was wondering if I should.
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