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No channel restriction, no use restriction 52 33.55%
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:26 PM   #1
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Should the 2.2 run 2 channels only, three channels with no restriction, or just a no-rear-steer rule?
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:31 PM   #2
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Where is "as many channels as you want, no rear steer"?

I said steer... moooooooooooooo!
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dang it!! consider that the 3 channel vote then. It has no restrictions
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3 channels, no restrictions!
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:38 PM   #5
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LOL!! steeer
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I posted my thoughts in the other thread but will do so here also:

you either open up the class to as much inovation as possible with 3 channel radio

or

very ridgid rules that do not allow cheater tires, very little body mods, no rear stear, no dig, just a plain basic machine.
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rockwerks, wouldn't "rigid rules" basically be a "stock" class?

Or would there then have to be an "2.2 Unlimited" class?
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We have discusses the 2.2 unlimited around here. Nobody even runs dig at our comps yet though, so it really hasnt been enough of an issue.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:04 PM   #9
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Wait til they do. When a rig can make a tight turn without ANY reverse penalties you start seeing these rigs consistantly in the negative numbers.
At that point the only option is to design courses that favor one rig over the other, and *that* is not fair.

The only disadvantage of dig is somtimes they don't engage or disengage, but when set up right they are an extreme advantage.
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rockwerks, wouldn't "rigid rules" basically be a "stock" class?

Or would there then have to be an "2.2 Unlimited" class?
That was kinda my point.
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Old 11-15-2006, 02:14 PM   #11
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3 no res
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Wait til they do. When a rig can make a tight turn without ANY reverse penalties you start seeing these rigs consistantly in the negative numbers.
At that point the only option is to design courses that favor one rig over the other, and *that* is not fair.

The only disadvantage of dig is somtimes they don't engage or disengage, but when set up right they are an extreme advantage.
sounds like you need to setup dig to me!!!
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sounds like you need to setup dig to me!!!
Sure I can do that. With an extra servo, a bunch of parts, and then if I don't allready it, a 3 channel radio too.

You're missing the point. If the original intention of no rear steer in 2.2 was to keep cost down, then dig should be disallowed also. It's the same thing moneywise.

*BUT* if you are going to allow something like dig, which costs the same, then rear steer should be allowed also, because of the advantage dig gives.
I think either rear steer or dig offer the same advantage.

That's why I voted no rear steer and no rear dig.
If we are to allow one then we need to allow both.

Level playing field remember?
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Now you changed the poll again I vote no channel restrictions and allow dig.
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I have two threads going. I messed up the first poll, so I started one with a 2 channel limit.
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Old 11-15-2006, 06:19 PM   #16
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Whoops, how embarasing
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Old 11-15-2006, 06:24 PM   #17
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rear stear gives you more of an advantage than dig, rear stear gives you the option to turn the back left or right of an obstical, where dig when engaged still requires you to drive in a strait line, you can turn sharper but you cant push the rear in and direction you want, you can pull a turn sharper but youre stuck going over an cone or whatever if you line up bad, instead of driving the rear end around it. yes it is an advantage over nothing at all, but I have yet to see anyone win a comp because they had dig. if saving a little cash is the only motivation for the rules, then everyone who dives a 1:1's would be driving stock jeeps. should my 2.2 be disqualified because i have $80 shocks instead of the $15 ones, or because i have a $100 body, or a brushless setup? (which i dont, well not all of them, yet)

the rules need to be set and left alone. if you want to run more you need to move up a class. then you can run whatever you need to. To keep the playing field fair, if you choose not to use all of the options available thats your choice.


there may not be a good answer to the question.
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I'm all for 3 channel, no rear steer. If you can make dig work for u, so be it! At the nationals i didn't see it helping anyone that much in the 2.2 class!
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It seems to be 50/50 on rear steer. I doubt there will be an easy answer.
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It seems to be 50/50 on rear steer. I doubt there will be an easy answer.
Ya know I cna still run rear steer on 2 channels LOL
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