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Old 10-22-2012, 08:42 AM   #21
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Do you even own these rigs ? You sure do like to recycle pics.
1. What does this have to do with what was asked of Tim?

2. Yes I own both and a lot more.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:14 AM   #22
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The way it sits right now with R1 axles and AX10 bead locks. I'll post the measurements when I get home.



With AR60's and stock Wraith wheels.


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Old 10-22-2012, 09:55 AM   #23
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Here are some better pics. Widest part of the chassis is 6.25". Track width is 11.5"


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Old 10-22-2012, 07:41 PM   #24
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Here are some better pics. Widest part of the chassis is 6.25". Track width is 11.
MG200, that thing is a work of art.

Sorry off topic I know
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Outside tread to outside tread: 10.25"

Inside tread to inside tread: 6.25"

Body width at the doors: 7.00"








Damn, my junk is narrow.
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Damn, my junk is narrow.
You sure you want everyone knowing that?
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:30 PM   #27
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You sure you want everyone knowing that?
Might as well conform to all the stereo types (I can't drive either).
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:14 PM   #28
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I was thinking this might help, is a scale calculator for scale military models. I had a hard time getting over the fact that my 1.9 C2 truck was so much smaller than my 2.2 C3, a full size F-350 and a Jeep both supposedly 1/10 scale according to Axial and Tamiya!

Scale calculator

Maybe there is a similar tool out there that can be used. And maybe C2 is more like 1/12 scale and C3 is 1/10, or C2 is 1/10 and C3 is 1/8 scale.

And maybe I should post this on a different thread, just want to help.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:41 AM   #29
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i scale comp c3 with a wraith, but i have also used this in c3.

i got over an inch total wideners on the trexs, i plan on putting ar60s on this.





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Old 10-23-2012, 04:47 PM   #30
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12 1/2" wheelbase
8" wide at the body
10" outside of tires
5" inside of tires

(please ignore the rats nest wiring...Wraith interior soon!)











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Old 10-26-2012, 08:45 PM   #31
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Not exactly from the front or top but this should work. 11.25" track width, 7.25" inside tires, 7.75" wide at the sliders. This is the widest bodied class 3 I have seen yet, its a wonder it can even get out of its own way.

I hope this helps Tim!



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Old 10-28-2012, 10:33 PM   #32
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OK, not sure this is what your were looking for but here we go.
FOJV Buggy and it is A SCALE REPLICA!

12" outside of tire to outside of tire.


7 3/4" Inside to inside


1" between body and inside of wheels
(But see last picture)


Its kinda hard to tell to be honest if it is 1" or less.
Body measures 6 1/4" from side to side.

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Old 10-28-2012, 11:40 PM   #33
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FOJV Buggy and it is A SCALE REPLICA!
You are probably going to totally hate me even more for this...buuuuuut...

Inside of the tires on the 1:1 are about even with the body...



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Old 10-29-2012, 12:11 AM   #34
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I can change the offsets on my rims. And where I took the picture if the measurement is not at the widest point.

So now what?
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Change the offset, remeasure. Very nice rig btw.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:30 AM   #36
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Why am I doing that? Why would I sacrifice any kind of performance for less?
Im already at 6 1/4 across the body at the doors and the back cab.

Anyway, I'm not gumming up this thread with haterade either.
You want to debate this, debate it in the other thread. Leave this for its intent.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:11 AM   #37
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All I know is that the rigs that look the most realistic proportionally are the ones with the tires closer to the body. All the rigs with an inch on each side between the body and tires look like "honey I shrunk the body" rigs. Norm is close, and an offset change can get it closer, but many of these rigs just don't look right compared to the 1:1 (or theoretical 1:1)

On the other hand, some of the rigs posted with bodies closer to the tires aren't very scale looking on the whole, but that's a matter of execution, not proportion, which is what this thread was getting at.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:24 AM   #38
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Well now that I have the body size and the Inner tire to tire, its at 3/4 each side.
But the offsets that mayhem provides with these wheels are what works best with the VP gear. So I don't know.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:06 AM   #39
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All I know is that the rigs that look the most realistic proportionally are the ones with the tires closer to the body. All the rigs with an inch on each side between the body and tires look like "honey I shrunk the body" rigs. Norm is close, and an offset change can get it closer, but many of these rigs just don't look right compared to the 1:1 (or theoretical 1:1)

On the other hand, some of the rigs posted with bodies closer to the tires aren't very scale looking on the whole, but that's a matter of execution, not proportion, which is what this thread was getting at.

We have c1 and c2. They look scale. C3 does not look scale with ar60s. How much of an advantage do they have in comps. Enough for a lot of people to spend allot money to convert over from an ax10 axles.

Now if we outlaw the ar60s. There will be some disapointed venders and some pissed people that spent a great deal of money on there aluminum ar60s.

"On the other hand, some of the rigs posted with bodies closer to the tires aren't very scale looking on the whole, but that's a matter of execution, not proportion, which is what this thread was getting at. "

Its not just the axles........

So how much do we want as scale and how much comp. 60% comp and 40% scale.

Good luck Tim and the rest of the rule committee. Very hard choices


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Old 10-29-2012, 12:08 PM   #40
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AR60's can look scale, but with a larger scale body since they are larger than the AX10 scale (jast as AX10's are larger scale than MRC axles)

I hope the rules committee doesn't outlaw any specific part being used, but rather sets limits that make these rigs more in line with realistic proportion.

Enough talk though, let's see some more pics.
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