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Old 02-01-2013, 08:39 PM   #321
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I don't see many plastic ones either.
I don't build plastic scale rigs, I build them out of steel.

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I don't think anyone's little voice is talking to them. They are scared to build within the rules provided.
Over the last 6 months there has been nothing but "rules say x min width but that rig is illegal because I don't think it looks right" or now " I can buy a Delrin chassis from a active vendor but I can't build the same thing with my hacksaw and hand drill because I don't want to weld or braze."

Rules are meant to level the playing field not control how a rig looks off my opinion vs another builders. But here we are limiting through option instead of opening up to new active members, vendors, and supporting creativity.

This community is going to start to grow stagnant if we do not find a way to together.
The rules are layed out in front of you and are meant to be as simple and easy to follow as possible. We can add a bunch more rules and try to cover every bit of gray area possible (actually we can't) but I don't think anyone wants that. This is about fun. Everyone knows what a scale truck looks like, you all know that they are mostly steel. Build them for looks and not performance first and everything will be fine.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:42 PM   #322
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I don't believe anyone here has said you can't build your CF chassis as long as it fits within the guidelines. The only thing I've heard is "why would you want to?"
My opinion is it isn't scale, but like I said that's my opinion and not the rule.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:57 PM   #323
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No toy will ever perform like a real vehicle. Performance is what this hobby is all about for some people.
Your right, performance is what it's about for some people and for others it's about trying to make your toy truck perform like a real truck. It is possible to achieve performance without sacrificing scale realism it's just not gonna weigh 6 pounds.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:05 PM   #324
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You just laid it out perfectly WarPig: "This is all about FUN."

Everyone can not agree what is scale. We show photos of skinny rigs and still get voted out. I could post an all ally square tube rig with a motor at each wheel. But the rules limits me by having separate controls for each axle more or less each wheel.

At the end of the day how I build my rig should not matter to anyone one bit. What should matter is we all have fun with the rigs we enjoy building and driving. If my rig out preforms yours then don't follow me. No one is asking for harder courses at national events and we have all seen who runs hard courses at local events on the regular.

If my style of building or toy trucks forbids you from shaking my hand next time we meet - Im not sorry for building what I like, I am sorry we couldn't enjoy the same rocks.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:08 AM   #325
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I would like to thank the Scale Committee for all their hard work and time put into the changes and time it took away from their familys and new builds. I may not agreed with all the the changes but you guys listened, dicussed and voted trying to make everyone happy(which is an impossible task). I thank you for the time and efforts. The rules will always have grey areas our judicial system proofs that, play fair and most of all have fun!
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:12 AM   #326
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Thanks Gus, hope to see you at a comp or two this year....possibly OR vs WA up at the lake?
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:45 AM   #327
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Thanks Gus, hope to see you at a comp or two this year....possibly OR vs WA up at the lake?
or PA.

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Old 02-02-2013, 11:03 AM   #328
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Thanks Gus, hope to see you at a comp or two this year....possibly OR vs WA up at the lake?


You bet! You guys had your hands full this year. I am looking for to doing some scaling with you again this year. Definitely WA vs OR Need our trophy back. Maybe I can sneak down to your hood this spring as well.
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You bet! You guys had your hands full this year. I am looking for to doing some scaling with you again this year. Definitely WA vs OR Need our trophy back. Maybe I can sneak down to your hood this spring as well.
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So i was wondering on the 7 inchs inside of tire to inside of tire rule. So that means no wraith or wraith axled vehicles. Thanks

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Old 02-12-2013, 07:28 PM   #331
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So i was wondering on the 7 inchs inside of tire to inside of tire rule. So that means no wraith or wraith axled vehicles. Thanks
Incorrect, that was just an example. See the rule below:

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The distance between the inside of the tires (of any axle) can be no greater than 1.25" more than the width of the body at the doors.
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So i was wondering on the 7 inchs inside of tire to inside of tire rule. So that means no wraith or wraith axled vehicles. Thanks
No, the rule for C3 is that the body has to be within 1.25" of the inside of tire to inside of tire. So if your track width inside to inside is 7" the minimum body width would be 5.75". Make sense?
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Thanks guys, just wasn't sure on that rule thanks again for the info...
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So, with the release of the Twin Hammer, where does it fit in? I know it does not have frame rails per se & I don't think that should be the deciding factor for this rig. It looks a hell of a lot realer than some pics in that "wow, that's an rc" thread.

It has the newer C3 ultra4 look but with the size of a C2 honcho.

We are running a C2 comp this Sat. & will let them run.
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So, with the release of the Twin Hammer, where does it fit in? I know it does not have frame rails per se & I don't think that should be the deciding factor for this rig. It looks a hell of a lot realer than some pics in that "wow, that's an rc" thread.

It has the newer C3 ultra4 look but with the size of a C2 honcho.

We are running a C2 comp this Sat. & will let them run.
I think this rig is in a class of its own and is better suited in a different course setting. A few of our club guys have them and one on the way for me but we are planing on a Rock / Ralley Race type of course. One things for sure is you are absolutely right about the apperance of the rig and some other rigs I see on RCC.
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So, with the release of the Twin Hammer, where does it fit in? I know it does not have frame rails per se & I don't think that should be the deciding factor for this rig. It looks a hell of a lot realer than some pics in that "wow, that's an rc" thread.

It has the newer C3 ultra4 look but with the size of a C2 honcho.

We are running a C2 comp this Sat. & will let them run.
I think it's a great G6 rig, it don't really fit in with the 10 gate type competition to me. It's great to let them run in your club, but it doesn't fit in the rules for a National event. Just my opinion.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:06 PM   #337
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I would say that it's going to have to be a Class 3 rig for now. Can't really let a rig like that run in Class 2.

G6 + Twin Hammer = FUN!
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No matter how the rules are written you will always have grey area unless class1 is only TF2, class2 honcho, and class3 wraith.
wouldnt there still TECHNICALLY be a grey area...shouldn't the wraith not be a class 3?

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• Description - An off-road vehicle that you would BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP and might see in a TTC/KOH type competition.

yea the 1:1 that the wraith was modelled after was built from the ground up but theres no effort to assembling a kit or just pulling a RTR out of the box..

oh and I dont care... just wanted to throw another stick on the fire lol
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Class1 says street legal or something you would drive to work. Would you ride a tf2 to work?

The correlation being that it's in reference to 1:1.
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wouldnt there still TECHNICALLY be a grey area...shouldn't the wraith not be a class 3?

Class-3 “Modified”
• Description - An off-road vehicle that you would BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP and might see in a TTC/KOH type competition.

yea the 1:1 that the wraith was modelled after was built from the ground up but theres no effort to assembling a kit or just pulling a RTR out of the box..

oh and I dont care... just wanted to throw another stick on the fire lol
No idea where your going with that or what stick your trying to throw on the fire.
I won't try and debate if building a kit is hard or easy - everyone's skill set is deferent.
Past that - a wraith could be a street legal 1:1 that I could and would drive 45min to work every day.
Making each class a specific brand and rig as I stated takes all the grey area out of the class terms and subtracts all fun from the day of crawling.
No sure how you took it but that's what was meant - sorry to confuse you.
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