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[boob dude]

The 2/3 rule makes the Pink Taco, Panchos, and both of my truggys out of spec, I think that pretty well all truggys will be out of spec. Now with tube beds I could see the 2/3 rule but not with a truggy.

[DISTURBIN' tha PEACE]

Originally Posted by jthellfire911

Well i had to pay someone to braze the nuts on to hold the bed sides on, cost of steel and having to buy a new tailgate set because the one I've got is cut down for the dove tail. Not everyone has a lot of money to accomplish redoing things. I'll have to make new tube Fenders and side rails. All of which is MIG welded and flows properly with the rest of the tube work. Adding extra to spread it out would look like shit. And I'd also have to buy a new bed set because these are shortened to meet the back of the frame specific. I'm not the only one screwed by this. How many chassis are out there that people have paid good hard earned money for that are now not legal because they are a truggy or dove tailed. You guys gotta think about that stuff. I'm just bitching because its a dumb rule to change. I can completely understand the 2/3 rule for the front, but the rule for the rear is Effing lots of people. Not just me. I still don't see how making it 2/3 is hurting the rig any more than it was before.

I hear you.

It just might make my rasta truggy out of spec too.

[Rockpiledriver]

Only, "make a few tweaks" and outlaw a ton of non point chaser rigs.

[jthellfire911]

Originally Posted by DISTURBIN' tha PEACE

I hear you.

It just might make my rasta truggy out of spec too.

How hard would it be to just make the rule that the dove tail has to be scx frame width or wider? That would keep people from running the back end to a point and haveing the bedsides touching at the tailgate area. Just some thought... One of those if it ain't broke don't fix it kinda things. Imo it feels like this specific rule wasn't thought out that clearly...

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

The 2/3 thing, does that mean if the cab is 6 inch then the dovetail can only go to 4 inch. If so I think 1/2 would be better.

[War Pig]

It's being discussed guys, take it easy.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

Only, "make a few tweaks" and outlaw a ton of non point chaser rigs.

That's helpful

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

The 2/3 thing, does that mean if the cab is 6 inch then the dovetail can only go to 4 inch. If so I think 1/2 would be better.

I agree, with a truggy you only get 4 points, with a pinched tube bed you can get 8 to 12 points depending what you do, leave the truggys alone they are handicapped enough, but I can still see the 2/3 rule for tube beds, and yes I have both truggys and tube bed rigs,and all 3 are out of spec with the 2/3 rule.

[War Pig]

We are leaning towards making it 1/2. Would that keep people in spec? We obviously don't want a ton of people to have to rework their rigs.

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by War Pig

That's helpful

Well since you decided to end the civil PM discussion we were having without proving a claim you made. I guess the only place I can share what I think is in the "2013 scale rules discussion or question thead."

BTW you forgot the r in thread.

[pike2350]

Originally Posted by War Pig

We are leaning towards making it 1/2. Would that keep people in spec? We obviously don't want a ton of people to have to rework their rigs.

I think 1/2 is good....or even using the frame rails as a good indication.

As for the flat bed...not sure if it really matters for class 2 since it could just as easily be considered a tube bed..but what about saying it has to be the width of the body until it gets to the centerline of the rear axle? That way, the bed pictured earlier would be legal. The bed would still hinder performance some if it was just as wide as the body that far back.

Just a thought.

[jthellfire911]

Originally Posted by War Pig

We are leaning towards making it 1/2. Would that keep people in spec? We obviously don't want a ton of people to have to rework their rigs.

Yes! That would still allow peoples rigs to stay in spec.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by sally1800

*a truggy/tube bed that is narrower than the cab counts as a dovetail* (2/3 the width of the widest part of the cab).

I am kinda confused. Truggy or dovetail and be narrower than 2/3 the widest part of the cab.

As long as I stay with in the 5/8 rule it legal?

This is all a Class 2 discussion, get the f-ing pictures of your truck out of the thread.....why are you always trying to show everyone pictures of your trucks?

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

Well since you decided to end the civil PM discussion we were having without proving a claim you made. I guess the only place I can share what I think is in the "2013 scale rules discussion or question thead."

Sorry Brian, I'd rather concentrate on our rules than try to explain why yours won't work

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

BTW you forgot the r in thread.

Dammit! Thanks .

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by War Pig

This is all a Class 2 discussion, get the f-ing pictures of your truck out of the thread.....why are you always trying to show everyone pictures of your trucks?

My bad

Class 2 not class 3.

Not try to show any one. Just trying to help your little brain under stand my question.

Jackass

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

I having a good time anyone else.

[Duuuuuuuude]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

I having a good time anyone else.

Not really. I gave up caring a long time ago.

[doublej]

Thanks for all the work from rules committee, for the most part all the changes seem pretty sound to me. For whats thats worth to most.....

For the tube fenders - what if you changed the wording to something "Must follow the full outline of the fender."
That would at least make them look like real 1:1 jeep tube fenders and not just a piece of tube.

War Pig - Coming from the skinny bodied side of the class3 argument, I think ya'll did good. I was honestly expecting to see a much smaller number. Seems like a nice middle ground.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by sally1800

My bad

Class 2 not class 3.

Not try to show any one. Just trying to help your little brain under stand my question.

Jackass

At least I can spell
Do you even know what we are discussing?

[joeyf]

Originally Posted by War Pig

That wouldn't be legal in Class 1 but you could call it a tube bed in Class 2 and count it as a dovetail .

thanks but know i fall short of the 2/3 dovetailing.

Originally Posted by War Pig

We are leaning towards making it 1/2. Would that keep people in spec? We obviously don't want a ton of people to have to rework their rigs.

i think 1/2 or frame rails is good.