twin hammers

[finishline]

Originally Posted by doublej

It is not - your right. But not that the rig as been classed as a pan chassis and not a tuber. The scale committee has to either allow it or state why it is not and write it into the rules that it is not legal. Basicly by not working quick they have put them selves into a corner really. Just my 2cents.
Till then - Sorry but it is just like the CC-01 and is legal, weather it is worded or not. Ill buy CC-01 decals and run it. 1:1s change full bodys and leave very little of the orginal vehicle but still badge it as they want right?

You are correct on the ruling about it not being amended but the CC01 is just a tub chassis not a tub and tuber as is the TH.

[doublej]

Originally Posted by finishline

You are correct on the ruling about it not being amended but the CC01 is just a tub chassis not a tub and tuber as is the TH.

BINGO - Thank you Sir!
There is no such thing as a pan chassis in the 1:1 offroad world. Its a tuber or a unibody. If your going to follow the 1:1 world - then do it and stop pulling the RC world into it.
CC-01 is not either and should be illegal all together. I am going to guess that it was written into the rules to support a manufacturer that was willing to support scale. Well we have another one guys. So why is everyone so pressed to say it doesn't belong?

Tubers can be made street legal in many states. Heck I can goto the DMV with FJ40 vin plates and it will be written. So by the defining basics of the classes - why shouldn't it be allowed? The rules have width requirements for all the classes and that regulates them - so even if I built a tuber in class1 it would be on the same playing field as everyone else.

The rules are great and getting evern better but there are alot of "opinions" written in - if we can get it down to only the "Regulations" I think these issues will be a thing of the past.

[JasonInAugusta]

So the simple solution is to build a tuber with a flat bottom, or just build a new "pan" from tube and skin it like they do in the 1:1 world.

Look under the driver compartment of a Campbell IFS buggy. You'll find a flat chassis pan. Just a skin on the bottom of the tube work.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by finishline

The chassis is not legal in C2, i think that some people would like it to be. If you could what were you thinking for rig design, pan, solid axel front and back and 2 speed tranny?

It would open up a few things, but has the rules are now.

[doublej]

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta

So the simple solution is to build a tuber with a flat bottom, or just build a new "pan" from tube and skin it like they do in the 1:1 world.

Look under the driver compartment of a Campbell IFS buggy. You'll find a flat chassis pan. Just a skin on the bottom of the tube work.

Solution to what?

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by doublej

"The exception to this rule is the Tamiya CC-01 or TA-02 ,(Hummer, S-10, Ford F-150 and Toyota Hilux)and Modified class Tubers."
If your claiming that the TH is a pan chassis and not a tuber then it is no different then CC-01. Allow it or edit the rules to write it out cometely and explain why it is not allowed and the CC-01 is.
Till then your basicly not allowing it because of your "opinion" and not something being illegal about it. And that is the biggest issue with every ruling issue we hve hd for the last year....... Opinions.

If your claiming to copy the 1:1 world then do it, not pick and choose what is within "the spirt".

I think the CC-01 was just alraedy here , so they let it be in.
For the record, I not on the committee and I'm not allowing or not allowing anything. My opinion is based off what the rules say. I don't care if they change the rule and let the TH in. I 'm just going off the rules we have now.

[JasonInAugusta]

Originally Posted by doublej

Solution to what?

All the pissing and moaning about driving toy trucks at an event and the argument about "scale".

[doublej]

Noone is saying its not scale, just not class2. But i get your point now and agree with the pissing and moaning.
Heck pull a poison spider and bolt some scx10 rails to it - LEGAL!

My point was its a 1.9 rig. Let it run, if not - why and don't give me opinion, give me non solvable issues.

[JasonInAugusta]

Let's just take our scale toy trucks and go drive without nit-picking.

Twin Hammers is announced and we hear "That looks cool, I'm getting one."

"Hey, that looks nice!"

"Oh, wow. It has a pan chassis, that's different."

"That DOES look nice but it has a pan chassis? Guess what? You can't run it here."


And as far as bolting SCX rails it WOULD be legal. People got points for engines hot-glued in the back seat of Jeeps.

<-not a fan of competing with scalers. I almost didn't go to a local fundraiser because they were using SORRCA rules. In the end I went, but didn't worry about competing, just went to support the fundraiser and have fun.

And I drove a TH through the course.

[doublej]

Thats trendy....... Want a cookie?



Oops I'm all out.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta

<-not a fan of competing with scalers. I almost didn't go to a local fundraiser because they were using SORRCA rules. In the end I went, but didn't worry about competing, just went to support the fundraiser and have fun.

And I drove a TH through the course.

If you don't want to compete with your scaler, then why you in this thread, just to make the rules look bad cause you don't want to play by them so you don't want anybody else to either.

Why is these threads full of people that don't attend on using the rules, but sure got alot to say about them. We have a word for that where I come from.

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Why is these threads full of people that don't attend on using the rules, but sure got alot to say about them. We have a word for that where I come from.

The word sure isn't nutswinger.

[finishline]

Originally Posted by JasonInAugusta

<-not a fan of competing with scalers. I almost didn't go to a local fundraiser because they were using SORRCA rules. In the end I went, but didn't worry about competing, just went to support the fundraiser and have fun.

So what your saying is you don't like competing with scalers but when you do it's at a SORCCA scale comp and you have fun

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

The word sure isn't nutswinger.

Every one has a different word for it, depending on what part on the country you are from. But everyone seems to have the same word for you.

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

But everyone seems to have the same word for you.

And what might that be Ricky?

[ROWDY RACING]

[doublej]

There is always one in every crowd that has to change a decent discussion into a pissing match. I do find it funny that these debates never seem to matter once we are all on the rocks and playing with toy cars.

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

I think the CC-01 was just alraedy here , so they let it be in.
For the record, I not on the committee and I'm not allowing or not allowing anything. My opinion is based off what the rules say. I don't care if they change the rule and let the TH in. I 'm just going off the rules we have now.

Missed your post some how.....
Yeah - I wasn't trying to attack you personally - You and I usually seem to be on the same page, agreeing or not. Was just trying to make a point.

So whats stopping you from building this "pan car of your dreams" Sir?

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by doublej

Missed your post some how.....
Yeah - I wasn't trying to attack you personally - You and I usually seem to be on the same page, agreeing or not. Was just trying to make a point.

So whats stopping you from building this "pan car of your dreams" Sir?

Never thought I was being attacked.
I'm just defending what the rules say.

I don't have a dream pan car chassis, but if it's allow I might start dreaming. I build with in the rules, if the rules change, I build with in the rules. Do I think they should change, no.

If the clubs want to let them in, great.
If you want to have a fund rasier, run them, thats great.
National Championship, they don't fit the rules.

When I put on a National Scale event, I'll have a course just for the TH type rigs.

[ROCKEDUP RICKY]

Originally Posted by Rockpiledriver

And what might that be Ricky?

Well it's not nutswinger.

[Rockpiledriver]

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

National Championship, they don't fit the rules.

When I put on a National Scale event, I'll have a course just for the TH type rigs.

Contradict yourself in the same post. Awesome.

Then there is this part where you tell TH owners to go elsewhere.

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

It's a G6 rig or rock racker, it's not the type of rig made for the 10 gate type competitions that rule are modeled after. It just don't fit in the rules any where. Hit a G6 comp and kick butt.

According to others it fits class three or class two with a wheel change.

And this:

Originally Posted by ROCKEDUP RICKY

Then you have a rock race competition. There's not enough time in a National scale event to have a rock race too.
With the rigs that are out there now, someone should write up a few rules and have a rock race type event. But to try and fit these rigs in the scale rules we have won't work. It just 2 different type rigs.

If there is not time for it, there is no time for it. Which is it?

I do agree that nutswinger is most certainly not a term that describes me.

You will have to try way harder than that to get under my skin. Here's a few more of these since you like them so much.