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Old 03-26-2014, 10:05 PM   #301
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For a functioning scale accessorie...proline tool box to hold my 4 way wheel wrench and 2 tow straps... 3 points?
2 tow straps would only count as 1 point. Is the wheel wrench scale or one of the gHey Tamiya wrenches?
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Old 03-26-2014, 10:25 PM   #302
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I hate asking for points BUT I love flexibility to max the way I want... So, backlit gauges/dash - worth any points?



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Old 03-26-2014, 11:40 PM   #303
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Nah, but it sure looks cool!
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Old 03-27-2014, 05:38 PM   #304
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2 tow straps would only count as 1 point. Is the wheel wrench scale or one of the gHey Tamiya wrenches?

If its a functioning scale tool/accessory, then the tamiya, axial, hpi any of those 4 ways.

Also, max one tow strap?

And the other question still...tool box count as a functional item or not?
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Old 03-28-2014, 02:30 PM   #305
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If its a functioning scale tool/accessory, then the tamiya, axial, hpi any of those 4 ways.

Also, max one tow strap?

And the other question still...tool box count as a functional item or not?
A Tamiya/axial/HPI 4 way wrench isn't a scale functioning tool. It's just a tool. You don't get a point for a 5" Vise Grip strapped to your truck.

Yes, you get 1 point for the tow strap whether you have 1 or 12 on your truck. Same with mirrors, clevises, bungee cords, etc.

Opening tool box is a functioning item.
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Old 03-28-2014, 03:55 PM   #306
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Nah, but it sure looks cool!

Can't blame a guy for trying, right? Lol


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Old 03-30-2014, 03:10 AM   #307
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Got back to work on my dually and realized the back was a bit wide its for class one.

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• Wheels must be aligned within the body wheel wells (center of wheels to center of wheel wells +/- 1/2 inch total
• The tread of the tires cannot extend outside of the wheel wells more then 1/2 of the tread width, flairs can be added to reach min. spec.
For the case of duallys do I measure from center of the inside tire or outside?
Or between where the rims meet?


Last question scale points I'm running 1.9 and have two spare tires one is 1.9 the other is also 1.9 or 2.2 the rules say its one means spare point but wouldn't the other count as a scale accessory?
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:59 PM   #308
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I know that a dig is only legal in class 3.

What about other brakes in class 1 and 2?

You can have a 2WD/4WD switching transmission. I am allowed to use a dig unit to disengage the front drive. Just like a real selectable 2wd/4wd system.

Now for the question: Can I use the lock position as front brakes?

In a real selectable 4wd system you can select just RWD and apply the brakes to lock the front and power your way around. Basically do a burnout. Which just happens to turn you around.

On the other hand I basically have a dig in my 1/1 stock Land Rover Defender. Just pull on the handbrake which acts on the rear propshaft. Don't lock the centre diff. And Let it rip. Front pulls and rear is locked. Works on icy conditions. Haven't tried this in an offroad situation though.
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Old 03-31-2014, 04:40 PM   #309
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How are you going todo cutting brakes in an RC?
And I would be careful of using the 1:1 in any type of terrain that has good traction. I played with landrovers a lot while I was stationed in England and their axle shafts are the smallest around.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:56 PM   #310
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Got back to work on my dually and realized the back was a bit wide its for class one.



For the case of duallys do I measure from center of the inside tire or outside?
Or between where the rims meet?


Last question scale points I'm running 1.9 and have two spare tires one is 1.9 the other is also 1.9 or 2.2 the rules say its one means spare point but wouldn't the other count as a scale accessory?
You measure the outer tires. Must cover half the outer tire.

Spare tire only counts once, in fact all scale items only count once..... Otherwise people would carry two tow straps, have two clevises etc and say one is functional and the other is an accessory.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:59 PM   #311
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I know that a dig is only legal in class 3.

What about other brakes in class 1 and 2?

You can have a 2WD/4WD switching transmission. I am allowed to use a dig unit to disengage the front drive. Just like a real selectable 2wd/4wd system.

Now for the question: Can I use the lock position as front brakes?

In a real selectable 4wd system you can select just RWD and apply the brakes to lock the front and power your way around. Basically do a burnout. Which just happens to turn you around.

On the other hand I basically have a dig in my 1/1 stock Land Rover Defender. Just pull on the handbrake which acts on the rear propshaft. Don't lock the centre diff. And Let it rip. Front pulls and rear is locked. Works on icy conditions. Haven't tried this in an offroad situation though.
I think we discussed this a year or two ago and decided that it was ok to disconnect the front and drive in only rear wheel drive. Any time you disconnect the rear it's considered dig and you should be instantly disqualified on the course.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:57 AM   #312
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Front disconnect OK. But what about front lock?

What about an open differential on the rear axle and braking one rear wheel at a time? Is that considered a dig although it doesn't disconnect anything.

I have 8 channels on my radio and thinking about stuff to add to my rig.
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Old 04-05-2014, 01:10 PM   #313
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Question is more how would you pull off the braking action? It would be a PITA to make functional and without the ability to switch back to 4wd you would lose a lot of mobility.
Although cutting brakes are the same idea as a dig setup - just more left to right vs front to back. The end gain or advantage is the same. So I would see it treated as such - a dig setup where you just achieved the dig motion with a different than norm setup.

All being said - I'm not the boss and would say, if you have an idea to make it work, Do It Man! Cause it could very well be some amsomeness not yet done.
Some times you gotta get creative to stay fresh even if you can't use it on course!
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Old 04-13-2014, 06:11 AM   #314
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Yes it's me again.

A bumper that is moulded to the body is OK in Class 1. What about Class 2? In the rules it just says it has to be chassis mounted. So no moulded bumpers in Class 2?

Does a Class 2 or 3 rig get the scale points for a bumper that is just wider than the chassis. Or do you need the full width bumper to get the points?
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:06 PM   #315
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A bumper that is moulded to the body is OK in Class 1. A class 1 vehicle MUST have bumpers that are as wide as the windshield. They can be molded into the body

What about Class 2? Class 2 rules state that you must have a front bumper that is at least as wide as the chassis rails, if it's molded into the body....it must also be mounted to the chassis too.

In the rules it just says it has to be chassis mounted. So no moulded bumpers in Class 2? If you build a bracket that mounts them to the chassis as well then they are legal. they can be molded but also chassis mounted

Does a Class 2 or 3 rig get the scale points for a bumper that is just wider than the chassis. they get points if they are wider than the chassis

Or do you need the full width bumper to get the points? nope, just wider than the chassis, Class 1 is the only class that they need to be wider.
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Old 04-15-2014, 05:28 PM   #316
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would this count as a drop bed or SUV cargo area.

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Old 04-16-2014, 08:12 AM   #317
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You know we count it as a drop bed locally
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Old 04-19-2014, 04:51 AM   #318
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Hello, sorry again bit I have a friend that are always telling me that my car isn't class 2 legal, maybe beacuse he never wins
The car as all the measures by the rules, front pinched less than 2/3 of width, width at doors more than inside tires.
can you please tell me if it's class 2 legal?
can you try to give me some scale points?
The car as half rails to count as truggy.
I know it's dificult to judge a car by photo but i can help


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Old 04-22-2014, 08:14 AM   #319
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Old 04-22-2014, 08:40 AM   #320
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I will take exception to the above ^^^

The rig has a chassis from the skid forward, it is not a tuber. It does have the outward appearance of a tuber but the frame rails negate that.

It appears you meet the "pick two of the mods,(pinched, doved or boatsides)" I see a pinched and doved, no boatsides.

I would ask for clarification on your "integrated" shock mount in the front from the committee.

Great looking rig by the way.

Just my opinions, I am not a SORRCA rep, just another hobbiest.....

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