01-28-2015, 09:11 PM | #201 | |
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How not with the tires? They're within spec height-wise (4.19), and fit 6/8 into the wheelwells at least. better pic of what I mean (from a little earlier in the build, but still): | |
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01-28-2015, 09:14 PM | #202 | |
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| Re: 2015 scale rules discussion or question thead Quote: 1.9 Rock Beast Scale Tire Specs: Part# - PB9003NK 1.9" Rim 1.7" SW 4.45" OD | |
01-28-2015, 09:19 PM | #203 |
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Apparently I'm just an idiot No idea where I got 4.19 from, thanks. Most likely just going to be able to go to G6-style events this year (likelyhood of making it to a SORCCA one is small sadly), so should be fine as is for what I need it for. Will make sure to do a tire-swap if and when the time comes |
01-28-2015, 09:19 PM | #204 |
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01-29-2015, 06:10 PM | #205 |
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| Re: 2015 scale rules discussion or question thead So if I make knuckle weights with CF pieces attaching them to the C's. They are now just knuckles. Seems like a play on words more than logic.
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01-29-2015, 06:23 PM | #206 |
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How do you figure they are just knuckles? You've attached weight to your knuckle (hence the wording in the rules), nor remade the knuckles out of CF. Although if you can remake the knuckle out of CF I am sure a lot of guys would buy them. |
01-29-2015, 07:30 PM | #207 |
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I did not state making knuckles out of CF. The weights housing the bearings are attached to the C's by CF plates. Lets say knuckle weights for sake of what it is. Non rotating mass on, in, around the Knuckle. If these are allowed. All should be allowed. Which I would prefer.
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01-30-2015, 09:29 AM | #208 |
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| Re: 2015 scale rules discussion or question thead That's my fault - My head read knuckle not Cs..... But at the end of the day, call it a play on words if you want - The intent will always be to keep things scale. So weather you and I like or agree with the rule, or can come up with a work around.... Just make it look like brakes instead of big shinny brass and everyone is happy. Or that's the idea.... I think. |
01-30-2015, 10:13 AM | #209 |
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Yea seeing that knuckle weights do not make the cut while weight knuckles do is messed up. If they look like something scale. That is different. Mostly I can't see making one vendors product legal while putting another out for words. Make them all legal. Our drive trains will thank us and the allowed enhancement of capability will only make it more fun to watch them do work.
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01-30-2015, 10:18 AM | #210 |
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I'm trying to get away from all that weight, working on a new light weight rig right now. |
01-30-2015, 10:50 AM | #211 |
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Class 3 Full Metal tuber with kms winch metal front axle. 6.5lb. I just sold it and working on another tuber with 4ws that should be under 5.5lbs. Both using solid steel rod. Last edited by holycaveman; 01-30-2015 at 10:53 AM. |
01-30-2015, 12:11 PM | #212 | |
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The intent of the ruling was to keep things as scale looking as possible - a lot of guys don't like to see the big brass ugly. So to keep things fair vs trying to define what is or isn't scale, make comp styles illegal. Plus you have to think, the guys making the rules are trying to keep this as simple and short as possible. Some times that means we have to explain things over and over till we get our wording and/or explanations correct. Other times the intent just has to be stated because rules are rules and no one will ever make a set of rules to keep everyone happy. | |
01-30-2015, 12:44 PM | #213 |
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just discussing here but even if you buy the plastic version there are brass slugs that slide into them. brass is brass. Whether a weighted knuckle or a weight around a knuckle or inserted into a knuckle. You can even get half in half so the weight is lower. LOL |
01-30-2015, 01:07 PM | #214 |
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Now I have a new buid. And I want it to look scale and work awesome! So my options are a scale knucke with no weights, or a heavy comp knuckle that doesn't look scale? Tough call. I can paint the dlux knuckle black. So honestly I will probably splurge for the heavy comp knuckle. And just paint it. I hope that next year the comp knuckle is not outlawed after I spent 95$ on a set! I don't run any weight at the moment. But i would always like the option. So if I buy the delux delrin version I can always add weight if I want to. Where I can not with a scale knuckle. |
01-30-2015, 01:10 PM | #215 |
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I think your just trying to make a dead point.... Change the words or names of things doesn't change the rule..... Comp style knuckle weights are illegal. And as soon as anyone that questions the words "comp style" and I explain RCBro weight holders or VP Brass chunk over the knuckle - "Ahhh that makes sense" is the reply I get most. Can't make everyone happy, although the committee tries. |
01-30-2015, 01:25 PM | #216 |
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My point is knuckle weight is knuckle weight. Dlux knuckles were designed for comp use not scale. They even have holes in them to add slugs. How is this in any way shape or form scale. Needs to be all or none. I vote all.
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01-30-2015, 01:27 PM | #217 | |
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Could have used the blue monkey ones if the rule was not so flakey. Would have only spent half and they are already black. Look more like brake drums than brass with large holes in it for adjusting weight. Quote:
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01-30-2015, 01:27 PM | #218 | |
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So why you guys try and do a good job with the rules (and I know it's a pita) certain rules get costly for the builder. In my opinion sometimes these things should be left alone. Again no big deal just a discussion. I plan on the dlux knuckles. Because I have the option of running weighted or not. No other set up allows this option now. But i will paint them black. Although brass is bling! | |
01-30-2015, 01:29 PM | #219 |
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01-30-2015, 01:38 PM | #220 |
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I like to make my own. They would be illegal like all others. Not knocking DLUX. I love his products and own many of them. To say no comp style except for this one certain one is not well.
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