class 3 tire question

[holycaveman]

Can I take a 2.2 swamper xl and cut it down to legal size. Rather than modding a regular swamper to make it taller.

Thanks

[xXxCheeziexXx]

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[War Pig]

Now that's a great question.

[tremorclod]

I didn't read anything that states you cant run cut and shut tires.

[doublej]

As the rules sit now, this is your problem as the rules are written:

• Tire size will be determined by advertised manufacturer specs (tires without available specs will be measured off the truck as mounted on the wheel laid flat).

With that being said - I don't see a tech table having an issue because of this line.

Class-3 Modified: Tire modifications are permitted, as long as the tire is no larger than 5.75" in diameter measured off the vehicle laying on its side, and all tire parts are from a legal scale tire.

Is the tread of the XL any different than the smaller tires?
It is a scale tire, so I could deff see the request to add or change a line in the rules to cover Cut N Shuts.

[xXxCheeziexXx]

I see a rewording needed cause some techs may say that all pieces used must come from a "legal" tire. The xl is considered illegal to most cause of the mfg spec size. If any of that makes sense, it did in my head

[holycaveman]

I want to be 100% legal guys. That is why I am posting this.

My thoughts are I don't want to Frankenstein a nice set of swampers to add a little height. It would look much better to just cut and shut an xl.

I mean if I have to expand tires and glue in sidewalls it's just not worth it. And with me doing it it would look like crap. LOL

it's not like it's a performance gain as an any serious comp crawler knows a 6" tire is not an all that.

But there is a coolness about a larger tire (to spec) in the scale world.

So anyways this is why I asked.

Thanks

[holycaveman]

It's hard to tell. This was a spy photo

http://www.bigsquidrc.com/wp-content...amper_spy3.jpg

[holycaveman]

http://prolineracing.com/images/prod...10107-14-4.jpg

[josh6575]

Looks like the tread is different only in scale. Both have 28 lugs around them. So the larger tire is wider with larger gaps and treads. Tom, the guys you run with will let you run an 8" dunkin donut for a tire from what I have seen. Build it and run it.

[holycaveman]

Originally Posted by josh6575

Looks like the tread is different only in scale. Both have 28 lugs around them. So the larger tire is wider with larger gaps and treads. Tom, the guys you run with will let you run an 8" dunkin donut for a tire from what I have seen. Build it and run it.

Actually the guys I run with follow sorrca rule 100% And this truck will be at national scale events.

So that is why this question is out there.

[holycaveman]

I have a couple weeks before I have to buy new tires........

Hint, hint

[War Pig]

* Class-3 Modified: Tire modifications are permitted, as long as the tire is no larger than 5.75" in diameter measured off the vehicle laying on its side, and all tire parts are from a legal scale tire.*

I have thought about this a bunch today and the part in yellow dashes any hope of cutting down a Swamper XL since they start life as an illegal tire. You're only hope of using a Swamper is to enlarge one of the old ones. Sorry.

[holycaveman]

Well that is what I needed to know, thanks.

[youngblood]

This is stupid. The fact that this tire isn't legal is just nuts.

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by youngblood

This is stupid. The fact that this tire isn't legal is just nuts.

Let Pro-Line know. It's all on them. These rules have been in place for years and manufacturers need to understand that we can't change the rules every time an out of spec product comes out. I think it sucks too but just like my own kids, you gotta let them fail and get hurt a few times before they learn certain lessons

[RickGrimes]

So as the rules read all people have to do is convince proline to advertise the size smaller even though it might physically measure larger?

[doublej]

At this point, I am pretty sure if you do that the rules will get changed and anyone that runs a Tech table will hate you and Proline.

Majority of the reason the rule is written the way it is, is to save on time and yet another thing to look at during Tech. Once you know which tires fit where, it is a glance and your on to looking at other things. And when you are looking at 150 rigs, within 30min to an hour - We don't need to make it harder.

[justinart24]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Let Pro-Line know. It's all on them. These rules have been in place for years and manufacturers need to understand that we can't change the rules every time an out of spec product comes out. I think it sucks too but just like my own kids, you gotta let them fail and get hurt a few times before they learn certain lessons

I agree. Plus, there are almost a 100 different tires scale tires available now a days,.........hey Pro-Line...."Measure twice, Design once."

[sally1800]

Originally Posted by RickGrimes

So as the rules read all people have to do is convince proline to advertise the size smaller even though it might physically measure larger?

Originally Posted by doublej

At this point, I am pretty sure if you do that the rules will get changed and anyone that runs a Tech table will hate you and Proline.

RC4WD did it with there 2.2 IROK