2016 Scale Rules

[SteveC6R]

Originally Posted by R2j

But like stated above, we are looking into clarifying the "drop bed".

Please do...I asked bsturgeon to post a pic over here for clarification as he attends comps with my local club and I handle tech. I lean more with doublej but don't want to screw anybody out of points if the general consensus is it counts.

[josh6575]

http://hpiracing.world/assets/images...1p_800_600.jpg
Would this be an approved class 1 tire?

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by josh6575

http://hpiracing.world/assets/images...1p_800_600.jpg
Would this be an approved class 1 tire?

I wouldn't consider those legal in any class.

Rules state, "Tires should be scale appearing...".

[baconbits]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

I wouldn't consider those legal in any class.

Rules state, "Tires should be scale appearing...".

Those would be crazy small. They have to be a O.D. of 4.19 (or smaller) without any tire modifications. So even if those are for a 2.2 rim they still be way to small. And a 2.2 is max rim size correct?

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[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by baconbits

Those would be crazy small. They have to be a O.D. of 4.19 (or smaller) without any tire modifications. So even if those are for a 2.2 rim they still be way to small. And a 2.2 is max rim size correct?

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Yes, max rim size is 2.2. I have no idea what size the tires are by the pic, but they aren't scale tires so honestly I didn't put any effort into looking them up.

[josh6575]

They are 1" wide and 2 3/4" tall. I am looking for a small 1.9 wheel. It was the scalest looking thing I could find between 2" and 3". Not many options out there. I think they look a lot like mud thrashers. Definitely not trying to gain the upper hand by using 1.9 rally car tires. Just trying to put together a small build and not have it look like a micro class 3. Thought it might be fun to take to a comp. Something different to look at.

[Highmark]

Originally Posted by josh6575

They are 1" wide and 2 3/4" tall. I am looking for a small 1.9 wheel. It was the scalest looking thing I could find between 2" and 3". Not many options out there. I think they look a lot like mud thrashers. Definitely not trying to gain the upper hand by using 1.9 rally car tires. Just trying to put together a small build and not have it look like a micro class 3. Thought it might be fun to take to a comp. Something different to look at.

That's rough on a 1.9" rim. IF you can go to a 1.55 RC5wd has these:

Dirt Grabber 1.55" All Terrain Tires

Could probably stretch these over a 1.9" rim:

Mickey Thompson 1.7 Baja ATZ Scale Tires

[josh6575]

I looked at them. 3" is just too big. 2.25 would be perfect. Thanks for your effort.

[jthellfire911]

Ok so I've got a question for the rear bumper on Scarlett. The first pic is without any extra tube and does not count as a metal rear bumper. The second picture has the tube I wanna add. Now would that count as a metal rear bumper separate from the tube bed?



There would be braces between the tube bed bar and the bumper bar. Just want to make sure it would count before I make it more difficult than it needs to be.

[baconbits]

Originally Posted by josh6575

I looked at them. 3" is just too big. 2.25 would be perfect. Thanks for your effort.

I'd be fine with them. Just saying... and they are scale looking in appearance.

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[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by jthellfire911

Ok so I've got a question for the rear bumper on Scarlett. The first pic is without any extra tube and does not count as a metal rear bumper. The second picture has the tube I wanna add. Now would that count as a metal rear bumper separate from the tube bed?



There would be braces between the tube bed bar and the bumper bar. Just want to make sure it would count before I make it more difficult than it needs to be.

If you ran "mounts" to the chassis rails I'd let it go. Rules state that bumpers must be chassis mounted and separate of the body. So if it wasn't mounted to the chassis it would be just part of the bed. IMHO

[bmuzz1]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy

If you ran "mounts" to the chassis rails I'd let it go. Rules state that bumpers must be chassis mounted and separate of the body. So if it wasn't mounted to the chassis it would be just part of the bed. IMHO

Anyone else on the committee have an opinion on this?

My .02...If the lower tube were to have a couple standoffs/braces I'd consider it a rear bumper but I'm very generous.

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by bmuzz1

Anyone else on the committee have an opinion on this?

My .02...If the lower tube were to have a couple standoffs/braces I'd consider it a rear bumper but I'm very generous.

The second bar he wants to put in just looks like the lower bar of the bed like most tube / flatbeds have to cover the frame.
It's a gray area but really to be counted as a bumper, I think it should look like a bumper not a lower extension of the bed.
It needs something added to be counted like the others are saying, braces / standoffs something to speperate it from the look of the bed

[jthellfire911]

Originally Posted by boob dude

The second bar he wants to put in just looks like the lower bar of the bed like most tube / flatbeds have to cover the frame.
It's a gray area but really to be counted as a bumper, I think it should look like a bumper not a lower extension of the bed.
It needs something added to be counted like the others are saying, braces / standoffs something it speperate it from the look of the bed

I was going to add d ring mounts in the middle. Aswell as have it mount to the frame. Just wanted to make sure I could braze it to the tube bed and have it still count.

[baconbits]

Is a axle mounted winch sorrca legal. I've seen it alot in the 1:1 world? Just figured I'd double check.

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[hotwheels000]

Ex committee member opinion.....


Love your attitude and relaxed opinion on the rule,

My take

Local event- good to go
Nationals- needs to folow the rule to the the written definition.

Or, rewrite the rule set to be more open and accepting to encourage more wide spread acceptance qnd use.

[War Pig]

A winch mounted on your axle is legal since it is done quite often in the 1:1 world.

[baconbits]

Originally Posted by War Pig

A winch mounted on your axle is legal since it is done quite often in the 1:1 world.

Thanks "Thumbsup"

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[War Pig]

Just make sure it's not carbon fiber.

[baconbits]

Originally Posted by War Pig

Just make sure it's not carbon fiber.

The axle? Or the winch? Lol....

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