2016 Scale Rules

[Tgreer]

Quick question, would the ax10 deadbolt fit in class 3 as a tuber, or is it counted as a twin vertical and not allowed at all? Got a new guy excited about crawling and wants to come to the RC4WD scale challenge.

[AJ.]

I would say no, you must run a rail chassis.

[xXxCheeziexXx]

Ax10 is a tvp design. AJ is correct. Not legal

[hotwheels000]

That's unfortunate... however it is a little to short to be considered a tuber and the other classes require chassis rails.

[Tgreer]

No problem, thank you for your help, I'll see about adding some rails to make it legal

[badhoopty]

Originally Posted by Tgreer

No problem, thank you for your help, I'll see about adding some rails to make it legal

could always find a cheap wraith cage and swap your parts over.

[SimoCanto86]

quoting myself....
Any news or confirmation about this?

Originally Posted by SimoCanto86

How would you score a body like this?

Mjolnir Classe 3 SORRCA - Scalers & Crawlers

It's a new bright hardbody jeep front plus flat rigid metal panels on the rear, bolted on a vaterra twin hammers cage.

Does it get only -4 for rigid hardbody front cab or -4 plus -1 for rigid flat panels, if they can be added to hardbody points?

If he joins the rigid panels together with the front hardbody glueing them on the sides forming an only body piece, will he get full hardbody points or have the panels be tridimensional like the rest of the hardbody?

I also have some new questions:

- can the spare tire have a different rim size from the other wheels, if the spare tire meets min/max diameter rule? exanple a truck running 1.55" with a small (same diameter of the other 1.55s) 1.9" spare tire mounted on a 1.9" rim.

- is it possible to change tires between the courses of a competition? i mean not same tire for repair, but a different set of tires for different kind of courses and terrain.
My opinion is no, just asking for your opinion and confirmation.

- how do you score points for a quarter elliptical suspension setup? same as a standard leaf spring setup?
Quarter Elliptical ?

Thank you

[Absurd]

Well since I been removed from the committee I will ask my questions here to better help the community, instead of being told they do not need to be gone over yet. So here is my first question Tandem axles vs current point count.

How many points would I receive with a 8x8 that has its axles set up like the ones in the pictures below, when the "quote" says Each, or for both, would this not give me -12 for a 8x8 with 4 leafed axles?

Suspension/drivetrain/steering:
• Leaf Springs (Must support vehicles weight, No external shock springs.): -3 ea. /-7 both

below is two links for a 3d image and a real picture of a Tandem axle set up. Thanks

http://www.trovei.com/parts/0420122/0420122Ra.jpg
http://e-catalog.rusbiz.com/user_ima...8ece90b6bd.jpg


fyi the rules do not clarify if it means both axles or if it means per leaf total.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by SimoCanto86

quoting myself....
Any news or confirmation about this?



I also have some new questions:

- can the spare tire have a different rim size from the other wheels, if the spare tire meets min/max diameter rule? exanple a truck running 1.55" with a small (same diameter of the other 1.55s) 1.9" spare tire mounted on a 1.9" rim.Yes, as long as the tire is within a .25" of what is mounted on the vehicle.

- is it possible to change tires between the courses of a competition? i mean not same tire for repair, but a different set of tires for different kind of courses and terrain.
My opinion is no, just asking for your opinion and confirmation.No

- how do you score points for a quarter elliptical suspension setup? same as a standard leaf spring setup?I believe no, but will verify that for sure. We discussed that a few years ago so it's been awhile since it has come up.
Quarter Elliptical ?


Answers in green.


Thank you

Originally Posted by Absurd

Well since I been removed from the committee I will ask my questions here to better help the community, instead of being told they do not need to be gone over yet. So here is my first question Tandem axles vs current point count.

How many points would I receive with a 8x8 that has its axles set up like the ones in the pictures below, when the "quote" says Each, or for both, would this not give me -12 for a 8x8 with 4 leafed axles?

below is two links for a 3d image and a real picture of a Tandem axle set up. Thanks

http://www.trovei.com/parts/0420122/0420122Ra.jpg
http://e-catalog.rusbiz.com/user_ima...8ece90b6bd.jpg


fyi the rules do not clarify if it means both axles or if it means per leaf total.

I only see it as two pairs of leafs for each pair of axles, so -7 for front and back if your doing that setup for the both ends. Scored per pair of leafs and must meet the criteria for the leaf rule.

[hotwheels000]

Hey R2J, why cant tires be changed between courses as long as they meet spec for that class ?

There is no rule against it....

Please clarify with a SORRCA rule that prevents this.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

Hey R2J, why cant tires be changed between courses as long as they meet spec for that class ?

There is no rule against it....

Please clarify with a SORRCA rule that prevents this.

Sounds like something you would do...

There is no rule on it, yes that is true. However I was thinking of it as in spec out of spec since you went trough tech with one set of tires already. I see it as if you change tires you would need to tech again.

[hotwheels000]

I would do it in heart beat if the tires on my rig were not working to my liking. Re-tech sounds appropriate if there is no level of trust within the community..

Thanks for your clarification.

MORE RULES=LESS FUN

You know I am not directing the last statement at you, its a hint to the committee in general.

[R2j]

Originally Posted by hotwheels000

I would do it in heart beat if the tires on my rig were not working to my liking. Re-tech sounds appropriate if there is no level of trust within the community..

Thanks for your clarification.

MORE RULES=LESS FUN

You know I am not directing the last statement at you, its a hint to the committee in general.

I don't think it's a trust issue, but I'm pretty sure someone would bitch about it. Matter of fact, I think we had that question come up at a comp when I lived in CO and that was the answer they gave.




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[War Pig]

I know it was a rule in the TTC that you couldn't change tires, not sure it would be an issue at a SORCCA comp. I guess we've never had it come up.

[Scrap]

I'd let people do it on-course with the clock running and give them the 10 point penalty for on-course repair. And another 12 points for using the hi-lift on all four corners. Or better make that 24 because you need a lug wrench too.

[jthellfire911]

So just a quick question, can you get tube bed points and drop bed points if your using bedsides ?

[Big Daddy]

Nothing says you can't, just have to make sure that the drop bed has all the parts of the inside of a truck bed, and has enough depth to it.

[papabash]

Under Scale Points, there is a heading for Realistic exterior items: (max -6 pts). One of the things listed as an example is a fire extinguisher. My extinguisher is mounted inside the cab on my interior console. I also have a 3D shifter with a grenade shift knob and was planning to add a NOS bottle. Do these things not count for scale points since they are mounted to the interior rather than the exterior as in the heading?

[War Pig]

Originally Posted by papabash

Under Scale Points, there is a heading for Realistic exterior items: (max -6 pts). One of the things listed as an example is a fire extinguisher. My extinguisher is mounted inside the cab on my interior console. I also have a 3D shifter with a grenade shift knob and was planning to add a NOS bottle. Do these things not count for scale points since they are mounted to the interior rather than the exterior as in the heading?

They all count no matter if they are inside or out.

[tremorclod]

Originally Posted by jthellfire911

So just a quick question, can you get tube bed points and drop bed points if your using bedsides ?

I got tube bed and drop bed points at the scale nationals, but to get both of the points looking down on the truck from above you should not see the ground through the drop bed/ bed sides