2017 Scale Rules

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by Bmelch

"Dovetailing the rear *a truggy/tube bed that is narrower than the cab counts as a dovetail* (1/2 the width
of the widest part of the cab)."

Does a truggy cage have to be wider than half the width of the cab?

Yes

[badhoopty]

Originally Posted by maxbonv

You are sure?

Sorry. but i don't see any cross bars in front and behind each row...

maybe its a translation thing... but its stated very simply in the rules that cages need front and rear cross braces, and i assume you know that since you quoted that rule. the image you are reacting to was provided strictly to illustrate cage mounting and not cage construction, and highmark was only reacting to the question at hand and specifying its legal to mount.

but in case you need it, heres what that cage would look like sorrca legal for points.

[Bmelch]

Originally Posted by boob dude

Yes

Ok. So any part of the truggy cage has to be at least half the width of the body, at least to the back of the rear axle. And a stinger welded to the cage can be included into the 3" longer than the wheelbase rule.

[devilman_76]

Originally Posted by badhoopty

maybe its a translation thing... but its stated very simply in the rules that cages need front and rear cross braces, and i assume you know that since you quoted that rule. the image you are reacting to was provided strictly to illustrate cage mounting and not cage construction, and highmark was only reacting to the question at hand and specifying its legal to mount.

but in case you need it, heres what that cage would look like sorrca legal for points.

[boob dude]

Originally Posted by Bmelch

Ok. So any part of the truggy cage has to be at least half the width of the body, at least to the back of the rear axle. And a stinger welded to the cage can be included into the 3" longer than the wheelbase rule.

Yes the outside of the truggy must be wider than 1/2 the width of the cab. If you have a bumper it would count towards the 3" longer, but stingers don't count in the 3" longer rule. And in the pic you sent me stingers go up I would consider what your calling a stinger as part of the truggy so it would make it to narrow and illegal.

[Constant Threat]

In class 2 the rule is the inside of the front tires cannot extended pass the width of the cab at the doors. Is this the widest part of the doors?

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[hotwheels000]

Originally Posted by Constant Threat

In class 2 the rule is the inside of the front tires cannot extended pass the width of the cab at the doors. Is this the widest part of the doors?

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Yes

[Scrap]

Now whats going on with the cage rules?

Originally Posted by devilman_76

a cage like this:

The above cage gets no points?

Originally Posted by badhoopty

but in case you need it, heres what that cage would look like sorrca legal for points.

Since when have the faded red bars been needed to get points?

The Dingo stock cage does not have those and last year you did get points for it. Same with the Deadbolt and most of the cages I've seen on scale trucks. The rule is written exactly the same as it has been for several years. So where has this sudden change come from?

[hotwheels000]

No change, the faded red bars are not required. The darker red bars at the top of the cage are in front of and behind... it also has the required down bars.

hoopty, your interpretation of the rule is incorrect.

[RcBro]

Trying to learn these scale rules.

With the 1000's threads and facebook post on this stuff. I'm unsure where to turn.

First the bumpers...

"Flat plate may be any thickness with a minimum of 1/2”. IE, it can be bent but 2 measured sides added
together must equal at least 1/2”."

Thickness? How is this measured? Height must be 1/2", width must be 1/2" or an L plate where one side is 1/4 and other is 1/4 and you meet spec?

Can the rear bumper be a 3" wide 16g steel plate and count?

Next interior
"A full interior must include these separate 3D pieces: seat, dash, steering wheel and complete floor. The
interior must be deep enough for a scale figure from the knees up. "

Does this mean the Dinky Honcho 3D interior kit does not count because the dash, seat and floor areone piece? Can I cut the piece into 3 section and meet tech?


Body Width
I currently have a full tube chassis with a lexan body that bolts to the outside. As the rules state the inside of the front tires cannot
extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors.

Can I place thin spacers inbetween the lexan and tube work to push the body wider to meet this spec without issues (with the painted body, you won't see them)


-Please note I'm not trying to stretch rules. Simply asking for building purposes.

[devilman_76]

Other question:

Hard body: Full - 12, cab - 6
•Hardbodies can be injection molded or hand made from styrene or metal.
•They can also be 3D printed or vacuum formed but must have a finished thickness of .060 with these
processes to receive hardbody points.

One user ask if he can reinforce his "vacuum formed pvc body" apply sheets of styrene/pvc to arrive at 0.060 where it is less,(in some part is less, in other more) to take the point, Is it legal or not?

the body like this:
1:10 Land Rover series 1 | RC Car Accessories | UK | Kamtec



thx for answer.

[2003EDGE]

Originally Posted by RcBro

Trying to learn these scale rules.



With the 1000's threads and facebook post on this stuff. I'm unsure where to turn.



First the bumpers...



"Flat plate may be any thickness with a minimum of 1/2”. IE, it can be bent but 2 measured sides added

together must equal at least 1/2”."



Thickness? How is this measured? Height must be 1/2", width must be 1/2" or an L plate where one side is 1/4 and other is 1/4 and you meet spec?



Can the rear bumper be a 3" wide 16g steel plate and count?



Next interior

"A full interior must include these separate 3D pieces: seat, dash, steering wheel and complete floor. The

interior must be deep enough for a scale figure from the knees up. "



Does this mean the Dinky Honcho 3D interior kit does not count because the dash, seat and floor areone piece? Can I cut the piece into 3 section and meet tech?





Body Width

I currently have a full tube chassis with a lexan body that bolts to the outside. As the rules state the inside of the front tires cannot

extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors.



Can I place thin spacers inbetween the lexan and tube work to push the body wider to meet this spec without issues (with the painted body, you won't see them)





-Please note I'm not trying to stretch rules. Simply asking for building purposes.

Full tube chassis will automatically kick you into C3 and the wheel coverage is no longer an issue. You just can't exceed 1.25" to the tire from the body.


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[RcBro]

Originally Posted by 2003EDGE

Full tube chassis will automatically kick you into C3 and the wheel coverage is no longer an issue. You just can't exceed 1.25" to the tire from the body.


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Still has SCX10 full length frame rails. Think formula toy


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[2003EDGE]

Ahhh, you said full tube chassis in your previous post.


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[RcBro]

Originally Posted by 2003EDGE

Ahhh, you said full tube chassis in your previous post.


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Not really sure what else to call it lol.


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[2003EDGE]

I would say an scx with some awesome cage work!

But I wouldn't see where the spacers would be an issue. I have seen people with channels in their sliders which hold the body out a bit to make minimum spec. But, I am sure Tim will weigh in.


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[Highmark]

Originally Posted by RcBro

Trying to learn these scale rules.

With the 1000's threads and facebook post on this stuff. I'm unsure where to turn.

First the bumpers...

"Flat plate may be any thickness with a minimum of 1/2”. IE, it can be bent but 2 measured sides added
together must equal at least 1/2”."

Thickness? How is this measured? Height must be 1/2", width must be 1/2" or an L plate where one side is 1/4 and other is 1/4 and you meet spec?

Can the rear bumper be a 3" wide 16g steel plate and count?

Next interior
"A full interior must include these separate 3D pieces: seat, dash, steering wheel and complete floor. The
interior must be deep enough for a scale figure from the knees up. "

Does this mean the Dinky Honcho 3D interior kit does not count because the dash, seat and floor areone piece? Can I cut the piece into 3 section and meet tech?


Body Width
I currently have a full tube chassis with a lexan body that bolts to the outside. As the rules state the inside of the front tires cannot
extend outside of the width of the cab at the doors.

Can I place thin spacers inbetween the lexan and tube work to push the body wider to meet this spec without issues (with the painted body, you won't see them)


-Please note I'm not trying to stretch rules. Simply asking for building purposes.

1st question, yup if it's 1/2" tall and wider than the frame rails

2nd question, the Dinky interiors are fine.

3rd question, yup that's fine.

[Highmark]

Originally Posted by devilman_76

Other question:

Hard body: Full - 12, cab - 6
•Hardbodies can be injection molded or hand made from styrene or metal.
•They can also be 3D printed or vacuum formed but must have a finished thickness of .060 with these
processes to receive hardbody points.

One user ask if he can reinforce his "vacuum formed pvc body" apply sheets of styrene/pvc to arrive at 0.060 where it is less,(in some part is less, in other more) to take the point, Is it legal or not?

the body like this:
1:10 Land Rover series 1 | RC Car Accessories | UK | Kamtec



thx for answer.

Legal yes, but no hard body points. The entire body must be .60 or more.

[devilman_76]

Originally Posted by Highmark

Legal yes, but no hard body points. The entire body must be .60 or more.

thank you very much for the answers and
thank you very much for your job

I am sorry for so many questions..
but all the drivers need answers for build/adapt the truck to new rules.

We wait for answers about:
2017 Scale Rules
post 118#

tks again!

[maxbonv]

Originally Posted by devilman_76

...We wait for answers about:
2017 Scale Rules
post 118#

tks again!

While I wait for an answer, the original post is 116#

Other question:

These 3d interiors are made correctly?