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Old 03-10-2017, 08:18 AM   #221
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-3 single row cage, if you want the bed mounted headache rack points you would need a additional orange or blue hoop/tube.


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An other question:

this (metal) cage:



(this is 1:10 )



how much point does it take?

I count -2 from (orange part)

Bed mounted headache rack or roll bar: Metal -2

I count -3 from (blue part)

Interior cage or exo - cage: Metal - 3,
(Per row of seats or area where seats would be).

so -5 point?


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Old 03-15-2017, 07:24 PM   #222
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Before spending money, these are legal correct? 2.2 Stainless Brake Disc Weights - Vanquish Products
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Old 03-15-2017, 08:41 PM   #223
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Yes, they are.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:10 PM   #224
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I have a question relating to race penalty points :

A driver takes "on the fly" his vehicle in overturning, that would end downstream and out of trail.

What are the penalties that have to be assigned?

Rollover: +5 points
Boundary Marker: +10 points
Vehicle Touch (Repair & Repositions): +10 points

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Old 03-19-2017, 09:20 PM   #225
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I'm not a committee member, but can likely answer your question(s).
First off, there are too many variables.

If a driver flies over a boundary marker without touching it and it lands on it's wheels, the vehicle can be driven back onto the course without penalty (providing the vehicle does not touch the boundary upon entering).

If in the same situation, the vehicle has to rolled over to get it mobile, it will be a +5 penalty.

If also in the same situation, the vehicle cannot be righted without a touch, time is called and the vehicle is placed with it's rear wheels at the last completed gate (or closest stable spot) Penalty +10

If, on the other hand, the vehicle touches the boundary marker on it's way off the course, time is stopped and the judge will place the vehicle with it's rear wheels at the last completed gate (or closest stable spot). Penalty +10

There are some winching scenarios that may also come into play, but a winch wasn't mentioned so I didn't elaborate. I'm sure one of the committee members will come in and elaborate at some point.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:00 AM   #226
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I'm not a committee member, but can likely answer your question(s).
First off, there are too many variables.

If a driver flies over a boundary marker without touching it and it lands on it's wheels, the vehicle can be driven back onto the course without penalty (providing the vehicle does not touch the boundary upon entering).

If in the same situation, the vehicle has to rolled over to get it mobile, it will be a +5 penalty.

If also in the same situation, the vehicle cannot be righted without a touch, time is called and the vehicle is placed with it's rear wheels at the last completed gate (or closest stable spot) Penalty +10

If, on the other hand, the vehicle touches the boundary marker on it's way off the course, time is stopped and the judge will place the vehicle with it's rear wheels at the last completed gate (or closest stable spot). Penalty +10

There are some winching scenarios that may also come into play, but a winch wasn't mentioned so I didn't elaborate. I'm sure one of the committee members will come in and elaborate at some point.
Sorry, probably I have not expressed clearly my question...

The problem I have highlighted is when a driver touches the vehicle and grabs him,
when he realizes that is about to tip over and fall away, possibly causing damage to your own vehicle.

Is in this case for me not clear what it is right penalties to impose .
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:04 AM   #227
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I have kept this build slightly quiet until I was sure I could make it work. Now to check with the SORRCA committee to make sure it is legal.

It is 3wd and based off of an actual 1:1 truck. If anyone would like to look up pictures it is a Roustabout Trivan.

My main question is. Is it legal. I have the minimum two driveshafts and there is no rule stating it is necessary to have 4 wheels.

Yes I am aware the rubber bands won't actually work. They were for testing.


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Old 03-20-2017, 09:13 AM   #228
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:14 AM   #229
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I figured as much. I studied the rules pretty hard so that I didn't break any. I just have never seen it done and felt that I should give it a shot.


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The day has come! Lol.

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Sorry, probably I have not expressed clearly my question...

The problem I have highlighted is when a driver touches the vehicle and grabs him,
when he realizes that is about to tip over and fall away, possibly causing damage to your own vehicle.

Is in this case for me not clear what it is right penalties to impose .
Anytime a driver touches the truck or the truck touches the driver it is a 10 point touch. Any touch requires the truck to go back to the last gate cleared.

No further penalties are given after the touch as it stops time. In other words, if the driver touches the truck, it continues to roll and hits a gate or boundry marker..... those would not be penalties as the clock stopped as soon as the touch occurred. .

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Old 03-20-2017, 12:55 PM   #232
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Anytime a driver touches the truck or the truck touches the driver it is a 10 point touch. Any touch requires the truck to go back to the last gate cleared.

No further penalties are given after the touch as it stops time. In other words, if the driver touches the truck, it continues to roll and hits a gate or boundry marker..... those would not be penalties as the clock stopped as soon as the touch occurred. .
What he said
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Anytime a driver touches the truck or the truck touches the driver it is a 10 point touch. Any touch requires the truck to go back to the last gate cleared.

No further penalties are given after the touch as it stops time. In other words, if the driver touches the truck, it continues to roll and hits a gate or boundry marker..... those would not be penalties as the clock stopped as soon as the touch occurred. .
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Old 03-22-2017, 03:45 PM   #234
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Why is a tube/truggy legal in class 2 (nowhere does it give a minimum width) but a flatbed has to be the full width of the cab for its entire length? the CChand flatbed has angled rear corners which seems to make it class three?

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Old 03-22-2017, 07:10 PM   #235
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This is the flatbed I'm referring to. Is this class 1,2 or 3? help?
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That bed would be legal for all three classes. What is meant by the angle/taper is referring to if the bed is dove tailed, that angle on the rear of the CCHand bed is fine. Plus it meets C1 tire coverage as pictured.
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Old 03-23-2017, 03:03 AM   #237
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Cool thanks for the clarification

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That bed would be legal for all three classes. What is meant by the angle/taper is referring to if the bed is dove tailed, that angle on the rear of the CCHand bed is fine. Plus it meets C1 tire coverage as pictured.
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Old 03-27-2017, 11:03 AM   #238
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That bed would be legal for all three classes. What is meant by the angle/taper is referring to if the bed is dove tailed, that angle on the rear of the CCHand bed is fine. Plus it meets C1 tire coverage as pictured.
Are you sure?

the rules say:

• Truggies are not allowed, flatbeds with full length rail chassis are allowed. The bed must be as wide as the cab the entire length of the bed. Cab only not allowed



I seem to remember a similar question in the past ..
with negative results
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Old 03-27-2017, 11:06 AM   #239
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I'd count that as a dovetail so legal in C2.

C1 never. Unless dovetailing is now legal in C1.
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Old 03-27-2017, 12:29 PM   #240
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Still don't think that's dovetailing but I'm not on the committee.

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