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Old 01-30-2018, 12:15 AM   #61
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Hallo ,
I just saw the new rules 2018, with regards to brass parts.



What is it actually meant by “no clear paint/coating”??

Is aluminum or nickel paint color allowed?

Thanks for the clarification!






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Old 01-30-2018, 05:10 AM   #62
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What is it actually meant by “no clear paint/coating”??
Clear represents a gloss level of translucent (paint of no color). Basically many people saw the previous revision of "Brass must be painted" and their way around it was to paint the brass parts in clear paint. So it would still be brass colored but technically painted.

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Yes, those are metallic colors that are not clear. You would be changing the brass color from a gold to those silver based colors and that is legal for sure based on all wording of the older 2018 revision or these new rules.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:30 AM   #63
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I already have a post about this. And was informed by a committee member that this year no points are assessed for using rear steer to try and promote it more in C3. However it still is listed in the rules under course points. Reason I ask is because of all the clubs lining events up based on these rules and how to interpret them. Thanks again.

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Old 01-30-2018, 08:36 AM   #64
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Clear represents a gloss level of translucent (paint of no color). Basically many people saw the previous revision of "Brass must be painted" and their way around it was to paint the brass parts in clear paint. So it would still be brass colored but technically painted.

Yes, those are metallic colors that are not clear. You would be changing the brass color from a gold to those silver based colors and that is legal for sure based on all wording of the older 2018 revision or these new rules.

It's insane to me that people have to look for a way around painting something that still involves painting something. At some point you have to ask yourself if you're in the hobby to enjoy it or just to be a dick.
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:38 AM   #65
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I already have a post about this. And was informed by a committee member that this year no points are assessed for using rear steer to try and promote it more in C3. However it still is listed in the rules under course points. Reason I ask is because of all the clubs lining events up based on these rules and how to interpret them. Thanks again.
It was voted on so it's 100% going to be updated - I would say they just haven't had a second to get the pdf updated.
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Old 01-30-2018, 09:15 AM   #66
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It was voted on so it's 100% going to be updated - I would say they just haven't had a second to get the pdf updated.
Thank you sir. And noted
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:07 AM   #67
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Clear represents a gloss level of translucent (paint of no color). Basically many people saw the previous revision of "Brass must be painted" and their way around it was to paint the brass parts in clear paint. So it would still be brass colored but technically painted.







Yes, those are metallic colors that are not clear. You would be changing the brass color from a gold to those silver based colors and that is legal for sure based on all wording of the older 2018 revision or these new rules.

Many thanks sir!

I was wondering why it was specified “clear”... now all is clear! :-)





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Old 02-06-2018, 08:19 PM   #68
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It's insane to me that people have to look for a way around painting something that still involves painting something. At some point you have to ask yourself if you're in the hobby to enjoy it or just to be a dick.
Does it make me a dick if I suddenly want to take the red covers on my 10.2 axles and paint them brass colored now?
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Old 02-07-2018, 06:27 AM   #69
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Does it make me a dick if I suddenly want to take the red covers on my 10.2 axles and paint them brass colored now?
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Old 02-07-2018, 07:55 AM   #70
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Hi guy! tks for all

about this:

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If present, shock hoops must be bolted, brazed or welded to chassis.


so this is illegal?


but



How can I distinguish a piece forged from a welded piece?
Now this is frame that can be purchased easly..


But I can easly weld or braze shock hoops.. on rail and clean the "brazed"
part so good to appair like one forge piece...
after clean/grouting/paint...

I can cut the shock hoops from the frame above and re-braze
the shock hoops like you can't have notice of this...

Or we have to buy a x-ray machine?
it does not make sense..

So it is legal only a low quality braze?

can't I use my grinder for clean the braze,
You say too

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..Must be painted or coated to hide the “brass" color of the part..
We have to decide if we want to see the welding or not.

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Old 02-08-2018, 06:26 AM   #71
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I add also...

if the type of shock hoops above like unreal, it is true.
But we can reward real type shock hoops, too. But
if we Forbid this type of frame we only depart all users with this type of "boxed" vehicle.

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Old 02-12-2018, 07:56 PM   #72
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Can anyone tell me if the Traxxas TRaxxas TRX4 is C1 leagle.? And if it must be ran with a body of something that was on the road with portal axles?
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Can anyone tell me if the Traxxas TRaxxas TRX4 is C1 leagle.? And if it must be ran with a body of something that was on the road with portal axles?
Other than the stock tires, yes the TRX-4 is C1 legal. Put on some 4.19" or shorter tires and you'd be set.
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Old 02-15-2018, 04:19 PM   #74
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So all ( i think) mex scale chassis and some others are now illegal in C1. Because shocktower rule. That is insane... Well, that will probably help people to participate. Come on, please make further adjustments to this rule
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:26 PM   #75
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Hi everyone, I'd like to have a couple of clarifications:

- custom handmade bodies (and custom interiors): do i get points only if the body is fully handmade from scratch by myself? no points if i drive a truck with a body handmade by someone else, or buy handmade parts and just assemble it ?
same as i sell the body i made to a friend, the body won't get points no more becuase it's not raced by its builder? also it's no more one of a kind and becomes a commercial product if i build more then one for myself, to resell it to other drivers. not different from buying a 3d printed or commercial abs body, it is correct to award the building talent and not the money spent imho.

- roll cages: can you give me confirmation on how many points are given to plastic cages mounted on lexan bodies such as axial rubicon/dingo/deadbolt ?
how many points for the honcho bed / rollbar (it's mounted on the back of the lexan cab) ?

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Old 03-04-2018, 11:07 PM   #76
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The custom body has to be built from scratch (I.e. flat stock) - but it doesn't matter by who. I have several completely custom bodies that I would get points for. You cannot however modify an existing body or use 3d printed or injection molded parts.

Roll cages must be mounted to the floor, or frame. If you mount your interior floor to your roll cage that'll work.
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Old 03-06-2018, 05:45 AM   #77
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thank you for your answer.

you mean points are given even if i run the handmade body i bought from another guy, even if he make several of that to resell (commercial product) , unless it is fully built from scratch?

as for rollbars, what if it is mounted on a 2d interior cover (like the dingo interior which is 2d and part of the lexan body) ?
no points because it has to be mounted on the floor of a 3d interior?
what about rollbars mounted on the china 3 door jk, need to be mounted on the floor in the front as well, or it's fine to be mounted on the dashboard/hardbody?
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Old 03-07-2018, 07:13 AM   #78
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I just cut the shock towers of my rc4wd gelande 1 chassis and had them welded back. I ground the welds down and painted the frame. It looks just like new. Quite proud of my handiwork as you can't even see the welds. Legal again and now I get the shock tower points too.

PS. The shock mounts need to be 3d to get the points. Can you even make 2d mounts?

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Old 03-12-2018, 01:25 PM   #79
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I just cut the shock towers of my rc4wd gelande 1 chassis and had them welded back. I ground the welds down and painted the frame. It looks just like new. Quite proud of my handiwork as you can't even see the welds. Legal again and now I get the shock tower points too.

PS. The shock mounts need to be 3d to get the points. Can you even make 2d mounts?
That is just insane. I think we have a problem when you have to cut off shock towers and weld them back on.

But good on you for improvising!

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For Class 1. Since the shocks cannot be mounted to integrated mounts. Can they be laid down and mounted directly to the frame to clear the drop bed?
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