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Old 01-26-2018, 07:29 PM   #1
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Default Help me understand the logic here on adding points for rear steer or dig?

Do you add points for xr mod compared to stock scx steering. Angled carbon fiber chassis compared to scx chassis? 2s compared to 4s?, brushed compared to brushless? Rear steer and dig in class three can not only screw you it is tough to master. Bottom line is some scale builds call for it. Why penalize people for being more true to scale?

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Just want to rest easy knowing there is some logical reason for this I am missing.

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Old 01-26-2018, 07:44 PM   #2
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Default Re: Help me understand the logic here on adding points for rear steer or dig?

Also just want to clarify that I am not wanting any type of argument. Instead of just continuing an old rule possibly review this at some point?

That's all. And thanks
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Old 01-26-2018, 07:59 PM   #3
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Default Re: Help me understand the logic here on adding points for rear steer or dig?

I think you're talking about the course penalty for using them?

Actually they just got rid of that this year.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:03 PM   #4
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I think you're talking about the course penalty for using them?

Actually they just got rid of that this year.
I swore I just read it on the new rules? If I am wrong forgive me.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:16 PM   #5
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"Caveman" you get it. LOL well I for one appreciate the change. Thanks
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I think you're talking about the course penalty for using them?

Actually they just got rid of that this year.
It's still in the rules.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:21 PM   #7
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I think you're talking about the course penalty for using them?

Actually they just got rid of that this year.
If it's gotten rid of the 2018 course rules n penalties list should be updated. Its still listed on there.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:32 PM   #8
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I hope it's gone. I mean they penalize a guy that builds a scale heavy tuber with rear steer. But allows a carbon fiber slanted chassis with xr mod which is completely not scale to run.
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Default Re: Help me understand the logic here on adding points for rear steer or dig?

Having rear steer or dig is a performance advantage over someone that doesn’t have it, therefore it had a penalty to use it. It was removed this year to promote the use of it, and Class 3.

That was easy.
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Having rear steer or dig is a performance advantage over someone that doesnít have it, therefore it had a penalty to use it. It was removed this year to promote the use of it, and Class 3.

That was easy.
Thanks warpig. But it's still on the rules?
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You really should update the rules PDF if there are changes in it.

There it is at the top between assisted recovery and point out

Assisted Recovery: +10 points
Dig/Rear Steer: +5 points
Point out: +80 points

There is no explanation however.
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Thanks warpig. But it's still on the rules?
Shouldnít be, obviously someone was supposed to change it but didnít.

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You really should update the rules PDF if there are changes in it.
Canít believe I didnít think of that.... Thought the PDF automatically updated itself
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Still there.

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Are we allowed to use dig and rear steer now on the course without penalty for C3?

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Shouldnít be, obviously someone was supposed to change it but didnít.



Canít believe I didnít think of that.... Thought the PDF automatically updated itself
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:05 AM   #15
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Judging from the previous WP post that should be the case.

However the penalty is still in the rules PDF.

Probably going to be fixed shortly. One hopes.
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Default Re: Help me understand the logic here on adding points for rear steer or dig?

With no penalty, does this mean we can run both on the same course now?
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With no penalty, does this mean we can run both on the same course now?
No penalty to use it, but you still can still only use one per course.
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No penalty to use it, but you still can still only use one per course.
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