RC4WD presents 2020 Las Vegas Scale Nationals
 

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Postponed till 2021 due to BLM permitting - Updated Dates below.


This year’s Scale Nationals will be held on Nov 6-8, 2020 at the Logandale Trails System in Moapa Valley NV. Located 40 miles north-west of Las Vegas, this 45,000 acre area caters to all types of off-road enthusiasts. We will be running Class 1 Friday, Class 2 Saturday, and Class 3 along with King of Logandale(1.9 & 2.2) on Sunday. Logandale Trails is on BLM land and is assailable by car via a graded dirt road.
Logandale Trails BLM Site

Keeping with the intent of the Scale Nationals event all rigs must be scale in appearance. Bodies and accessories must be realistic in nature.



Host Hotel:
Casablanca Casino https://casablancaresort.com/
950 West Mesquite Blvd
Mesquite, NV
1-888-711-4653
You can call to reserve your room. Use code "1LV20 Las Vegas Scale Nationals" to receive a group rate. Or use the link below:
Casablanca

Due to limited parking space, we will not have camping as an option this year.



For everyone flying into McCarran Internationals Airport
•Directions to Mesquite (Link)
•Directions to Logandale Trail (Link)
•Directions from Mesquite to Logandale Trails (Link)


Course Information:
• We will be running 4 course per class, plus a finals course.
• The Finals will be the Top 5 drivers from each class.
*Finals will depend on getting everyone through courses before sun down*
• There will be a scale points cap of 60 points in Class1, 50 points in Class2, and 50 points in Class3.
• We will be running 2020 SORRCA Rules


Ticket Prices:
•$50.00 per Class (Raffle ticket included)
•$25.00 1.9 & 2.2 King of Logandale "G6 style race" (No raffle ticket included)
Tickets will go on Sale Mid Dec 2019. ** Tickets will be announce here and Facebook before they go live **


Schedule of Events:
Thursday (Mar 18th): Meet and Greet - Concourse voting
•Registration 4-6pm
•Early Tech-in 4-6pm
•Concourse voting 6-7pm
**You can show any vehicle but only vehicles driving in the event will be eligible for award. We will have a separate Shelf Queen Class w/ award**

Friday (Mar 19th): Class 1 *60 Drivers cap
Location: Logandale Trail System
•7:00am to 8:00am - Registration, Tech
•8:00am - Drivers Meeting
•8:30am - Courses Open
•Noon to 1:00pm - Lunch
•4:00pm - Finals Course (All courses will stay out till sun down)

Saturday (Mar 20th): Class 2 *80 Drivers Cap
Location: Logandale Trail System
•7:00am to 8:00am - Registration, Tech
•8:00am - Drivers Meeting
•8:30am - Courses Open
•11:00am to 1:00pm- Lunch
•4:00pm - Finals course (All courses will stay out till sun down)

Sunday (Mar 21th): Class 3 *60 Drivers caps
Location: Logandale Trail System
•7:00am to 8:00am - Registration, Tech
•8:00am - Drivers Meeting
•8:30am - Courses Open
•Noon to 1:00pm - Lunch
•1:00pm – King of Logandale (mass start 200 gate G6 style run)
**King of Logandale will end at 4:30pm. Courses will not be picked up till following morning but Awards will not wait.**
•4:00pm - Finals Course (All courses will stay out till sundown)
•6:00pm - Awards & Raffle

https://i.imgur.com/OjB9931.jpg

We are still working on a few final details and will update everyone as things are finalized.
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Here are some YouTube videos from Logandale trails. I wish I could show how big this place is.


SORRCA Scale Competition 2018 Class 2 Las Vegas Final by Crawler75

SORRCA Scale Competition 2018 Class 1 Las Vegas Final by Crawler75

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Scale Nationals 2020 is proud to announce that RC4WD is this years title sponsor. We are excited to have them aboard, they are really involved with the rc community and love to help out any way they can and we know they'll help make this a great event, thank you for the commitment.


We have emailed, facebook messaged, and carrier pigeon a ton of Sponsorship requests. If we have some how missed you or I fat fingered your email - Please reach out to me! This hobby is only as great as its Vendors and the same goes for this and all events.

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Ticket Sales Announcement

The date has been set for ticket sales, tickets will go on sale December 20th @ 8am Pacific Standard Time. You'll be able to purchase your Class tickets as well as t-shirts and the catered lunch. We will release a link for sales the day before.

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1st NON Reserved Post

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Thanx for posting this here JJ and not just exclusively to Facebook.

I’m excited about this 1!! "thumbsup"

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Hell yeah, I can't wait. Gotta start planning the trip now.

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Yall know where my heart and loyalty is....."thumbsup"

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I am excite.

Very excite.

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Are you going to be able to make it this year!?

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Sweetness!!!!!!!!!


Later,
Farmer

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Yes i haven’t been to nats since 2015 in Colorado so I’m coming even if I have to ride a mule! "thumbsup"

How about yourself?

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Î will try to come.

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Nice!!

Yep, I'll be there :mrgreen:

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Being new to the sport and seeing a fairly low entry cap, is there any qualification needed? Or just sign up and show up?

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You just need to buy tickets when they go on sale. They usually go fast.

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For the directionally impaired...Logandale is north-EAST of Las Vegas...LOL

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Any update on when the tickets will go on sale?

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^^^

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Potato PATATO lol:flipoff:

Should be Mid Dec - I will post here and FB before they go on sale. "thumbsup"

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Thank you that was the kind of update I was looking for.[emoji106]

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Bump to the top for ticket sales announcement!!

The date has been set for ticket sales, tickets will go on sale December 20th @ 8am Pacific Standard Time. You'll be able to purchase your Class tickets as well as t-shirts and the catered lunch. We will release a link for sales the day before.

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Parking at event site do we need a parking pass from BLM?

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No

Wish I could make it but I'll be out of town that weekend.

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Thanks.

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This place has a little bit of everything for terrain. Even some dunes out there if you have some fast stuff that you want to run. We camp out there several times a year and run my 1:1. I'll probably be out there the weekend after the event.

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New to the crawling hobby. Is this event open to spectators? would love to come out just to watch and learn.

Thanks.

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Sorry for the slow reply - Yes Sir. Free to spectate.

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Also new to crawling (as many know). Would the Capra, if using narrower AR44 axles, qualify under Class 2 or 3? Also, for the King of Logandale, is it limited to only Class 1-3, or are other crawlers (such as an Alcista-based Capra) allowed?

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Thanks doublej. Think I'm gonna head out from Texas and check it out.

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Capra falls under Class3 because of the all tube chassis.
Alcista is a comp Sporty chassis - All events are Scale based and no TVP comp chassis are allowed.

Sweet! But be careful - Dodging cones gets addicting quick!
Jump in the King of Logandale - Way more Trail style than dodging cones.

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Thanks. Guess I'll put Capra #3 temporarily on the "back burner", and concentrate purely on Capra #2. Wheels arrived yesterday, final transmission parts should arrive before the end of next week. All that's left after that are the remaining axle parts, driveshafts, ESC, and motor. Funds have been tight lately, but business is picking up, so I'll hopefully finish it in time.

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Just got confirmation from my boss...I'll be there for Class 3, and I might even make it in time to watch some of the Class 2 stuff. Unfortunately, I won't be able to make it in time to watch Class 1, as I'll be driving a motorcoach full of people to Yosemite on the 19th, and back to the Bay Area on the 20th.

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Info on the event... Where can I get info. Much appreciated...

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Running into SEVERAL problems with this build, but I WILL have it finished in time. Underbelly, this slightly-modified Capra cage is all I can show...for now. Yes, I know this really isn't much, at all, for my Class 3 rig.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f4b98400df.jpgAs I mentioned, I've run into several "problems". Some reason this with find these problems frustrating, while others might find them funny (in a 'good' humerus way). Some, myself included, can find both sides of that coin - I'm somewhat frustrated on the outside, but somewhat laughing on the inside. Not in any particular order, they are as follows:

There have been multiple problems related to the skid. In lengthening the wheelbase, trying to determine the links lengths needed has also been problematic (the Vanquish Currie F9 axles have the link attachment points in different positions than the stock Capra axles), so it isn't as simple as lengthening the uppers & lowers by the same amount. As it turned out, the lowers needed to be lengthened by an additional 5mm. There was also a problem with the transmission, tho this was due to problems related to the skid (the skid's vendor failed to mention certain info on their website). While I finally obtained the 2.2 wheels I wanted (officially, they've been discontinued for a while), piecing them together proved incredibly difficult. Then, there's been the matter of obtaining certain parts from Asia, which have either finally arrived, or should be delivered this coming week. I'm sure you've all hears the term, "When it rains, it pours.". Well, I'm somewhere in that mix.

Quickly going back to the skid, as this has been an ongoing problem, this is a very "interesting/strange" situation. First, I ordered a Capra skid with holes set for an AX10 transmission...but received a skid for a Capra transmission. I contacted the vendor, explained the problem, and, after waiting a few more weeks, the AX10 trans skid arrived (they said I could keep the incorrect skid)...unfortunately, I hadn't yet received the custom transmission. When that finally arrived, I discovered two things - First, that a dig couldn't be used (due to the length of the dig servo mount), which the skid vendor failed to mention on their website (other than stating "for AX10-style 3-gear transmission", they didn't list any other info...none). Second, that the transmission mounting holes weren't properly aligned.

The two holes along the side were properly spaced, and the two holes closer to the center of the skid were properly spaced...but, the spacing of the holes along the side, to the holes near the center, were too far apart, by approximately 1/8-3/16". 1/16" could be worked around, but any further, and it's a no-go. So, I contact the vendor again, attaching photos of the "printing error", and was told that they would correct the problem, and ship a replacement. I thought all was well at that point...except that, when I received the replacement 2 weeks later, it turned out to be another Capra trans skid, NOT the AX10 trans skid I needed/ordered. I contacted them again yesterday...now I have to wait, again, for (hopefully) the correct skid to arrive.

Well, the steering knuckles arrived yesterday. Other than the skid & transmission, and a few other odds & ends (which aren't immediately needed), I finally have everything I need to start putting this thing together...or, so I thought. Adding "insult to injury", I started building the axles last night, only to discover that the threaded axle C-hub inserts we're missing (these came with the axles (which I'd received a few weeks ago), not the knuckles). Honestly, I have to laugh at this one, as the fault in this is completely with me...I misplaced them, and can't find them. I searched everywhere, and nothing. So, now I have to order replacements for those, and wait for them to arrive.

Talk about "going down the rabbit hole"...right now, I'm so deep, I'm starting to wonder if i will have this finished, AND tested, in time. So far, my first trip to Scale Nationals isn't looking so good, and there's still 4 weeks to go before it even starts. Guess I'll go back to painting the body panels, as I now have the time to finish those...lol

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Sharing this here for anyone that was planning on attending but doesn’t have bookface. Nats temporarily postponed. No other details yet.

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Shit happens.. it's probably for the best. I'm still looking forward to scale nationals 2020 in the fall.



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Thank you much mister! "thumbsup"

I look forward to the event when it works out.

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Not surprising. Events all over the country are temporarily shutting down.

This will give Harley more build time for his rigs. Those that have been watching his videos will know what I mean.

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no, it just means he will wait until the last minute to start "finishing" them again.