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Old 10-20-2009, 12:34 PM   #1
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Default Good news, they brought it back

http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/cars/in...part_num=31226

New Mad Force, hopefully the Twin Force is on its way too.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:27 PM   #2
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http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/cars/in...part_num=31226

New Mad Force, hopefully the Twin Force is on its way too.
I hope so too. It's a very simple truck and was vertually bullet proof.
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Old 10-20-2009, 02:44 PM   #3
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Outstanding, I have one and thinks it's the best. Just wish parts availability was better.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:09 PM   #4
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Outstanding, I have one and thinks it's the best. Just wish parts availability was better.
I agree, maybe they will carry more of them now that they are back. To be honest, my old Twin electric held up very well. Needing parts really wasn't an issue.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:23 AM   #5
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Same old force, new arms, new chassis, bigger engine, new knuckles (not so new actually). Handles better than before and the 28 gives good grunt to the machine.
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:25 PM   #6
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I want some of those new arms.

What makes it handle better MF?
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:59 PM   #7
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I like the looks of that. Parts availability,good thing on that....99% of the parts that might wear out can be swapped with 1:8 scale buggy parts,those are easy to get from most any hobby shop or online retailer.

New arms look good,although crawlers usually cut that part off.

New chassis looks good. Looks like it as well as other things sit lower,which would help handling some.

I like the fact that both front and rear diffs are now the helical gears. Wonder which gear set they used....hopefully the 3.3:1
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Old 10-21-2009, 08:18 PM   #8
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Helical gears is nice, I remember turning my "pot metal" ring gears to dust on the first run with BL in my TwinForce. Man I loved that truck, fast, handled like crap, bounced on jumps, dogbones popped out constanly lol. The quirkyness was what made it great, please Kyosho make the TwinForce again.
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:26 PM   #9
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please Kyosho make the TwinForce again.
Would be nice,but in all honestly,the axles are all that's worth anything in a crawler.

BUT,if they did bring the Twin back,might get one for a basher around the house. That nitro stuff is poopie.....
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:49 PM   #10
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I want some of those new arms.

What makes it handle better MF?
In the proto I drove the chassis was longer meaning less pointless wheelies. Also the arms don't flex that bad so steering remains more consistent.
The diffs were MA050 helicals both front and rear and factory shimmed.
The shocks were thicker, kind like the MFR ones but shorter. Much better damping.
The whole stance was lower for better turning. The $hitty steerimg assembly was still there.
Overall a much better and powerful starter truck and parts are 80% the same as before.

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Helical gears is nice, I remember turning my "pot metal" ring gears to dust on the first run with BL in my TwinForce. Man I loved that truck, fast, handled like crap, bounced on jumps, dogbones popped out constanly lol. The quirkyness was what made it great, please Kyosho make the TwinForce again.
The Spirit I got had steelies all around. The twin force version "might" be coming next according to them.
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Old 10-23-2009, 05:26 AM   #11
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Right Christmas has been sorted Any chance of a crawler version? It looks wicked A brushless TF would be awesome

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Old 10-23-2009, 11:15 PM   #12
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Right Christmas has been sorted Any chance of a crawler version? It looks wicked A brushless TF would be awesome

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Who knows? Now that Kyosho has taken over Orion..........
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Old 10-24-2009, 07:10 AM   #13
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Hmm. The rebirth of the Super class has begun. More builds for this board too. Couple years too late to reproduce this beast, but at least it's back.
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Old 10-24-2009, 08:57 AM   #14
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Did supers die?????
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Old 10-24-2009, 12:50 PM   #15
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Did supers die?????
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:23 AM   #16
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Are the new susp. arms the same length as the old ones?
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Old 10-27-2009, 12:29 AM   #17
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When I put the new truck side to side with one of mine the arms looked the same in length. They are different in construction with a reinforcing rib running the length of the arm. The added 30mm of length seem to come from the chassis mouting points.
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Old 10-27-2009, 10:24 AM   #18
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I like the fact that both front and rear diffs are now the helical gears. Wonder which gear set they used....hopefully the 3.3:1
I bet its the same gears for the older mad force. I used them in my truck. MA050 13/43
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:33 AM   #19
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Sweet! I still just need one of the axles though. Maybe this way parts will be available and i can build one.
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Old 10-28-2009, 11:10 AM   #20
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Cool. Maybe this will bring the demand for axle clamps and maybe RC4wd will start making theirs again....still need those dang thangs
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