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Old 09-29-2009, 07:42 PM   #1
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Default po' man 3 link conversion for front (pics now included)

So I ran my SCX last weekend and was quite impressed with its ability, however one thing that bugged me was seeing that steering servo on the axle... fine for a comp style rig but just bothered me to see on a "scale" truck. So I figured I'd better do something about it that night when I got home from the mountain.

Goal: To create an inexpensive 3 link conversion for the SCX-10 to convert the front to a true 3 link and place the servo on the frame with minimum or no bump steer.

1st
parts list:

Links:
1- Axial 91mm (3.58in) ( upper 3rd link)
1- custom 2.955in (75mm) (panhard rod)
1- custom 2.52in (64mm) (drag link)

mounts:
1- Axial 3rd link axle mount (with ball)
3- Axial servo mounts

Ballends:
1- Axial offset link end
2- Axial straight link end

hardware:

Self tapping:
3- .570 (14.5mm) screws
2 to 4 .390 (10mm) servo screws
2- .390 (10mm) screws
1- .47 (12mm) screw

machine screw:
1- .55 (14mm) screw
2- .63 (16mm) screw
1- M3 nylon lock nut

Step 1: Parts:


Step 2: remove front cross brace and drill two holes as shown, roughly 1.83in (46.5mm) apart just below center (see pic)


Step 3: heat short end and bend to 1.32in (33.5mm) match holes in frame (see step 10 and 11)


Step 4: cut boss on short end, remove .080in (2mm) (cut side toward frame)


Step 5: remove upper 3rd link assembly. remove bent link end on driver side (don't forget to replace screw) attached Axial 91mm (3.58in) link to passenger side link end on frame.


Step 6: attach 3rd link to axle with .63 (16mm) M3 screw


Step 7: take 1 Axial servo mount block and remove radius corner so it is a sharp inside corner



Step 8: cut side of mount


Step 9: attach servo mount block to passenger side axle with 2 .57in (14.5mm) self tapping screws


Step 10: attach Axial 3rd link axle mount to side of frame use .57in (14.5mm) self tapping screw in rear hole


Step 11: attach to front part of frame rail with .55in (14mm) M3 screw and lock nut


Step 12: attach Axial straight link end to 2.955in (75mm) link


be sure to use standard non-flared ball


Step 13: attach panhard to axle with .47in (12mm) self tapping screw


Step 14: attach panhard to frame with .63 (16mm) M3 screw


Step 15: remove material on 2 Axial servo mount blocks to clear ridge on servo mount tabs


Step 16: mount 2 servo mount blocks to frame cross member with .390 (10mm) self tapping screws


Step 17: mount to frame


Step 18: assemble drag link as shown with offset link end and straight end


Step 19: attach offset link end to passenger side steering knuckle


Step 20: mount servo to front mounts and attach drag link to servo arm. Done!





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Old 09-29-2009, 08:43 PM   #2
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Bitchen!

How does it perform? Looks like all the angles are correct on the Pan hard and steering arm. I might have to follow suit with something like this. I also have a scaler that has the servo on the axle...Fabricating and making things work is half the fun anyway...I know the HandBros Kit is supposed to be a great mod, but it's pretty expensive.

Good work!

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Old 09-29-2009, 08:48 PM   #3
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Bitchen!

How does it perform? Looks like all the angles are correct on the Pan hard and steering arm. I might have to follow suit with something like this. I also have a scaler that has the servo on the axle...Fabricating and making things work is half the fun anyway...I know the HandBros Kit is supposed to be a great mod, but it's pretty expensive.

Good work!

JB
Hey man, thanks.
I agree messing around trying to make something work IS half the fun. It was Sat. night after I got back from the mt. and I just could't wait for something to be shipped.
I notice no bind or bump steer, I can't see it with my eyes. And it looks a lot better than axle mounted servo, IMHO.
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:49 PM   #4
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Nice work.


You may want to slip a nut inside the axle housing to help keep the axle bracket on in rough situations. Check the suspensipn section:
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Old 09-29-2009, 09:57 PM   #5
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great job and great write up, im gonna have to keep this in mind
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Nice work.


You may want to slip a nut inside the axle housing to help keep the axle bracket on in rough situations. Check the suspensipn section:
Locked Up's SCX10 - Trail Ready H2

he shouldnt have a prob with that he used both holes on the diff
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Old 09-30-2009, 07:33 AM   #7
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Nice work, way to think out-side of the box
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Old 09-30-2009, 05:10 PM   #8
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great fab work on the steering and panhard
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Old 10-01-2009, 04:51 AM   #9
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built not bought, i'm completely into it.
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Old 10-01-2009, 09:32 AM   #10
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he shouldnt have a prob with that he used both holes on the diff
So did I.
You can strip out anything if you try hard enough so I try to make things bullet proof. ;)
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This reminds me of "the old days" when rigs were built and couldnt be bought. Awesome work bro! cant wait to see the review of the mod.. video is always nice!
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Old 10-01-2009, 10:05 AM   #12
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I mounted my servo and battery the same way on mine, minus a panhard setup. I would think that you'd get more accurate steering with that arrangement, nicely thought out and documented .

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Old 10-01-2009, 07:24 PM   #13
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well between work and rain I haven't got back to the rocks but here is a lame video of the suspension.

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Old 10-02-2009, 08:23 AM   #14
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SLick idea man. I like it. Swampdawg did his own chassis steering upgrade as well using Axial parts. His turned out good as well.

Nice job.
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Old 10-02-2009, 09:11 AM   #15
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killer idea grate post...thanx for the set up it works uber good and the price was rite GSRCC Drail
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Old 10-03-2009, 04:41 PM   #16
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Props man great write up! im tring to figure something out like this on my scx chassis with tlt axles. Cant wait till i do.
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Old 10-04-2009, 09:16 PM   #17
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Hey guys thanks for all the props.

I figure the same could be done with the rear if one was so inclined. So far I am pleased with the results, full articulation with no binding and no servo on the axle to ruin the "scale" look of my ramcharger.

Hope some of you could get some use from this, post up pics if you use this or have your own mods.
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Old 08-18-2010, 05:23 PM   #18
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changing the ride height with this conversion creates some small issues, namely serious axle steer.

I decided I wanted to add some new shocks, problem was/is I only have longer 110mm shocks so the ride height gets a lot higher. With this comes axle steer, the lower triangulated links steered the axle about 10 degrees at full droop so next came a custom set of link mounts for the lower links to make them more of a parallel link setup.



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That looks good how has the new setup worked out for ya?

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That looks good how has the new setup worked out for ya?

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I've been pleased with this set up. Currently I am building a SCX with my 7yr old son and plan to use this set up on his.
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