What's the best DIG setup for a super?

[jeepfreek]

Ok, I did a search and read through a lot of buildups and I want to know who is having the best success with what type of a DIG for their super. I want to keep things simple and just do the servo and switch's (front and rear DIG) but want to know the most reliable method or wiring or if there is a better way. Post up your opinions!

[JeremyH]

Why not run dual ESCs? I just set this up on my 2.2 clod and it works quite well.

[Nova's Ark]

A local member ran two crawlmasters on his clod super with dual mamba max's powered with a single 3S lipo and the dig / hold was amazing. It was not as strong when he switched to 55 turn motors. In a Super, I think having independent control of the motors is crucial. You will experience clod stall with a single ESC.

[CD13]

Originally Posted by Nova's Ark

A local member ran two crawlmasters on his clod super with dual mamba max's powered with a single 3S lipo and the dig / hold was amazing. It was not as strong when he switched to 55 turn motors. In a Super, I think having independent control of the motors is crucial. You will experience clod stall with a single ESC.

X2,If its a super,With the switch method for front and rear your gonna have wires everywere.

[jeepfreek]

Using 2 Sidwinders, CCBEC, 3S LiPo and 55 turn Integy's with potal axles. Using the portals make it real hard if not damn near impossible to turn the wheels under no power, almost a full time drag brake! As far as independent control of the 2 ESC's, not sure how to do that? I just won a Futaba 7C 2.4Ghz system at a seminar so I can use that but will be awhile, never used a stick. I was going to wire a servo to my forth channel on my Megaplex 403 and wire 2 switches to the negitive wire on the motors. Swing the servo to one switch, DIG on that axle! Same the other way. Setting the throttle curve's to reduce any "clodstall" seemed the best plan for using 2 ESC's. If this is the best route then let me know. If you think just spend the time to master the stick radio is best then tell me. One last thing, I want to do our club's first comp this weekend and hopefully with DIG. Or don't screw around right now just run this comp and play around with the DIG's next week?

[run2jeepn]

The best Dig set up for a Super Clod. Dual Mamba Max's with brushless Motors. Brushless motors hold a lot better then Brushed. But you get much better Control from brushed. Better Control would mean better lines and less need for Digs. The switch set up on Supers won't work well at all. The tires have to much leverage. The taller the tire, the less hold you will get. It's like putting a Cheater bar on it.

[jeepfreek]

Would that be more or less with the gear advantage of the portals?
I think your saying that the 7 channel adio would allow for a better dig system, run each motor on a different stick so you can vary the ammount of throtle, right?

[run2jeepn]

Originally Posted by jeepfreek

Would that be more or less with the gear advantage of the portals?
I think your saying that the 7 channel adio would allow for a better dig system, run each motor on a different stick so you can vary the ammount of throtle, right?

Only 4 channels are needed. Two motors and Two Servos. Basically Two Turcks in one.

[Nova's Ark]

Originally Posted by jeepfreek

Using 2 Sidwinders, CCBEC, 3S LiPo and 55 turn Integy's with potal axles. Using the portals make it real hard if not damn near impossible to turn the wheels under no power, almost a full time drag brake! As far as independent control of the 2 ESC's, not sure how to do that? I just won a Futaba 7C 2.4Ghz system at a seminar so I can use that but will be awhile, never used a stick. I was going to wire a servo to my forth channel on my Megaplex 403 and wire 2 switches to the negitive wire on the motors. Swing the servo to one switch, DIG on that axle! Same the other way. Setting the throttle curve's to reduce any "clodstall" seemed the best plan for using 2 ESC's. If this is the best route then let me know. If you think just spend the time to master the stick radio is best then tell me. One last thing, I want to do our club's first comp this weekend and hopefully with DIG. Or don't screw around right now just run this comp and play around with the DIG's next week?

I would leave your truck as is. Use it at the comp in it's current condition with no changes. You are familiar with your crawler and it's current characteristics and you will probably perform better with it that way. If you show up with a freshly modified crawler to a comp, there is a greater likelihood that something will break and that you won't drive well because the characteristics of the crawler have changed. Compete this weekend and then make the changes. By doing it that way, you will be able to compare the differences of the changes made between competitions to see what works better.

Your type of transmitter comes down to preference. I have come to prefer the stick (I am using a DX6) over the pistol grip. The control for a dual esc, dual motor Super is much easier to manage. I use the DX6 on all my crawlers now, partly because it's what I have and can afford, and partly because it's just easier to have one controller for everything.

As for the portals, I have not used them. The idea behind the portals is lower gearing though with increased ground clearance. The portals would help in a dig situation, but I think it's unnecessary on a Super. If your really concerned about dig on a super, go to brushless outrunners. My friends hustler clod super had dual crawlmasters and the hold of the drag brake was amazing. He was using Moab XL's too. The wheels were heavily weighted as well and it still held. Once the switch to brushed motors was made, all that hold was gone. The portals might help the hold of the drag brake with brushed motors. But they will cost you wheel speed.

Originally Posted by run2jeepn

The best Dig set up for a Super Clod. Dual Mamba Max's with brushless Motors. Brushless motors hold a lot better then Brushed. But you get much better Control from brushed. Better Control would mean better lines and less need for Digs. The switch set up on Supers won't work well at all. The tires have to much leverage. The taller the tire, the less hold you will get. It's like putting a Cheater bar on it.

R2J, you missed out a few words and the post didn't make sense. I filled in the missing words so that it would make sense. I hope that is OK. Your post was too good not to.

[Ced RC]

I recently switched my Super Class Pimp Cane to Dual Sidewinders and so far I love it. I also have dual 55T lathes and a 3s Lipo, the wheel-speed the 3s provides is great, and the 55T lathes are super smooth with the Sidewinders.

Like Nova's Ark said, you shouldn't make drastic changes just prior to your comp, I've learned that the hard way :-(

I would also recommend going with the stick radio for your Super, it was difficult for me to make the change, using a stick radio for a land vehicle, compared to a pistol radio, but using two ESC's has proven to be a lot easier for me with a stick radio, takes some getting used to, that's for sure!

Good Luck

[RXcrawler]

The stick radio and dual ESCs is the best route for the supers.

[jeepfreek]

Thanks guys! I'll take your advice.

[JeremyH]

Check the for sale forum....R2J has a DX6 for sale...

[jeepfreek]

I just won a brand new Futaba 7c radio why would I want to buy a DX6?

[broncoholic]

I just went to a 4 channel stick radio and dual mamba max's it takes some getting use to but it works great.

[run2jeepn]

Originally Posted by jeepfreek

I just won a brand new Futaba 7c radio why would I want to buy a DX6?

The Dx6 is a great Radio for a very Good Price.

[JeremyH]

Originally Posted by jeepfreek

I just won a brand new Futaba 7c radio why would I want to buy a DX6?

I didnt see that you had posted that....use whatever radio you want.

[bdp]

Originally Posted by RXcrawler

The stick radio and dual ESCs is the best route for the supers.

I'm in the process of building a super and am going to use a DX6. If I move to dual ESCs what is the "normal" setup for the DX6? Each ESC on a different stick? I have done no search but if flamed I'll try. Not trying to hijack either. Thanks. B

[Badd]

Originally Posted by bdp

I'm in the process of building a super and am going to use a DX6. If I move to dual ESCs what is the "normal" setup for the DX6? Each ESC on a different stick? I have done no search but if flamed I'll try. Not trying to hijack either. Thanks. B

well sence you where think you would get FLAMED . I think I will let you slide (not sure way) . http://media.putfile.com/dx6super

[RXcrawler]

Originally Posted by bdp

I'm in the process of building a super and am going to use a DX6. If I move to dual ESCs what is the "normal" setup for the DX6? Each ESC on a different stick? I have done no search but if flamed I'll try. Not trying to hijack either. Thanks. B

Normal for me is both ESCs on the left stick. Rear is the throttle (up and down) and the front is the alieron (right and left). I run a mix so that when th emix is on I can just push up on the throttle and both esc go foward. And if I want to dig (drive the front) I can just push the stick to the right. I can dig the rear by turring the mix off.

Soem people run the front esc and steering on one side and rear esc and steering on the other. I tried that but I'm already used to the way I run mine.