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WipeOut 09-10-2008 09:30 PM

Tuber vs TVP
 
I was looking at some threads in the AX-10 section and noticed that a lot of people were saying that a TVP chassis is better than a tuber. I can understand that for a 2.2 because its harder to get it back on its tires after a rollover. Now since I like supers and tubers I was wondering if it is the same for supers. To me it doesn't seem to be since the tires them selves are so tall they can still get traction.

Dynamic^Cipher 09-10-2008 10:19 PM

TVP's are minimalist frame style so perform really good. You must run a body though.
Tubers look good and don't need a body, but they normally raise your CG because they are heavy.

Supers are big and you can make either setup work well because theres more weight there to deal with.

WipeOut 09-10-2008 11:07 PM

I agree. I run a hustler so my cog is low. Plus if I rollover the Moab XLs are so tall I can drive upside down."thumbsup"

jetboat 09-11-2008 08:14 AM

if your doing a Clod super there is only realy 1 choice...STICK

TVP is good because of low weight but you do have to run a body

Tuber looks great but is more difficult to recover from a roll and tends to have a high CG

With both of the above you have a skid plate to get hung up on. With a stick or cane style truck you eliminate all of that.

Grizzly4x4 09-11-2008 10:55 AM

At Nationals this year:
1st place - TVP chassis
2nd place - Torsion cane style chassis
3rd place - Tuber
4th place - TVP chassis
5th place - TVP chassis

8th place - Joebruiser tuber driven by an 8 year old

Tubers can without a doubt be competitive. I say build what you like and make it work great.

Kamikaze 09-11-2008 02:00 PM

I fixed that post for you Grizz, joe made tylers tuber. That and if you have ever held a naked copperhead its every bit as light as a TVP.

Kamikaze 09-11-2008 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetboat (Post 1339406)
With both of the above you have a skid plate to get hung up on. With a stick or cane style truck you eliminate all of that.


I would take a 4 link over a stick any day. You loose all of your ability to load and unload the suspension, not to mention the axle swing.

WipeOut 09-11-2008 06:45 PM

I'm with Kamikaze on this one a 4-links tuning possibilities make it worth it!

Grizzly4x4 09-11-2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze (Post 1339770)
I fixed that post for you Grizz, joe made tylers tuber. That and if you have ever held a naked copperhead its every bit as light as a TVP.

My bad, I didn't realize it was made by Joe. :oops:

I wouldn't mind holding a nekid copperhead, as long as I could keep it. :ror:

rockbound 09-11-2008 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze (Post 1339772)
I would take a 4 link over a stick any day. You loose all of your ability to load and unload the suspension, not to mention the axle swing.

x2, you can do so much more with a 4 link set up, the only reason the stick works so well is the fact that it is so light, there is nothing to it. if you make the chassis to the min requirements and keep your cog low on your tuber, it will perform every bit as good as the stick chassis, plus you have the ability to dial in the suspension, make it react how you want it to.

everyone has there own opinions and the only way to decide what you like is to build it and drive it, or drive someone elses rig to see if you like it.

for me its hands down tubers all the way in both classes, thats just me, i like it to look the part not look like a stick.

jagg 09-11-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockbound (Post 1340296)
x2, you can do so much more with a 4 link set up, the only reason the stick works so well is the fact that it is so light, there is nothing to it. if you make the chassis to the min requirements and keep your cog low on your tuber, it will perform every bit as good as the stick chassis, plus you have the ability to dial in the suspension, make it react how you want it to.

everyone has there own opinions and the only way to decide what you like is to build it and drive it, or drive someone elses rig to see if you like it.

for me its hands down tubers all the way in both classes, thats just me, i like it to look the part not look like a stick.

I have both styles, and as far I can see it all comes down to driving skill and preference. Don't get me wrong, I get a great deal of accomplishment from building a tube chassis, but my 2.2 Torsion is a blast to drive "thumbsup". Mabye someday i'll get good a both :lol::lol::lol::lol:.

Kamikaze 09-11-2008 09:59 PM

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Mine tuber runs upside down.........

sid lives 11-11-2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamikaze (Post 1340485)
Mine tuber runs upside down.........

Is your chassis made from brakeline? Also what size are your lower links?

Oh yeah, sweet rig!"thumbsup"

Kamikaze 11-11-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sid lives (Post 1422282)
Is your chassis made from brakeline? Also what size are your lower links?

Oh yeah, sweet rig!"thumbsup"


Yep, 1/4" brake line. The lower and upper links are 1/2" delrin.


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