are Clods cheating??

[O1rngredge]

it kinda seems to me that running a clod as a rock crawler is cheating, i don't mean that the rigs aren't capable and i think that the work done to them is awesome, but if you look at the make up of a clod they are basically 2 axles that only need the chassis to hold the batteries and to hold the two axles together. I think a real crawling rig should have a central tranny/t-case, with motors and everything else on the chassis not on the axles.

buy hey thats IMO

[shadow]

I dont think the clod is cheating. People have been crawling clods way before anything else really. I think the low COG is an advantage but I have seen time and time again other trucks (not clod based) whip up on clods. The truck is only 1/3 of the battle, radio equipment, and the driver are the other pieces that make a successful crawler. Driving the right lines and having a smooth throttle response will be hard to beat anyday. I have a Emaxx that can compete with any clod, sure it may not have the articulation of the straight axle but it does very well.

Clod: Cheating no, lowest cog yes.

[jmirsberger]

theres a lot more to a clod than that so dont say stuff get your own and find out how complicated they get.

(Edited for language)

[MicroDiladum]

O1rngredge? Using clod axles is cheating? Thats just ridiculus.

[skipstr71]

Well I dont think its cheating but using a center trany/tranfer case is more realistic. I guess people dont like hearing its cheating though. Somebody took offece to that..LOL

[firstumustcrawl]

i kinda get your point but the like the other dude said hes got a maxx that crawls better than almost any clod so really its not cheatin i think its just about setup all things now are equally capable...idk maybe im crazy but thats how i see but maybe thats cause i only run clods lol

[JakeDaSnake]

Ok, I biult a Jugg project BEFORE my clod I have now... and the Jugg wasn't near as capable on hills and steep inclines because of the central tranny, high CG, and the stupid torque problem...

Later
Jake

[SR5Dave]

They aren't cheating, they're just Better. Is it like real 1:1 Crawling? Not really. Are other RCs? Sorta, but still not really. The only thing I dont like about my clod is a lack of gear reduction. You guys with a central case generally have more reduction and the option to do more, much more easily. So we may have a lower COG but only a 50:1 ratio.

[Fishmaxx]

Like everything else there are advantages/ disadvantages. Clods seem to have the throne now, but they have been around much longer. I think clods have been around over 15 years. (Its a guess) E-Maxxes less than 5 years. I have no idea about TXT's, X-Factor's and Juggys. I bet given time and technology someome like Dirk will push those clods off the mountian top.

[SR5Dave]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

Like everything else there are advantages/ disadvantages. Clods seem to have the throne now, but they have been around much longer. I think clods have been around over 15 years. (Its a guess) E-Maxxes less than 5 years. I have no idea about TXT's, X-Factor's and Juggys. I bet given time and technology someome like Dirk will push those clods off the mountian top.

NEVER :P

[Fishmaxx]

I think the tech behind Revo might close the gap 8O

[Krod_Clod]

Originally Posted by Fishmaxx

I think the tech behind Revo might close the gap 8O

are you freakin serious?? lol
REVO is a racer...not a crawler...if you want speed/good handling/agility...then get a maxx and use it..
If you want more scale realism for a crawler and solid axle action, then get a TXT/Clod/jugg...etc...

IMHO the revo will NEVER be as capable on the rocks as the 1987 designed clod...lol

MAtt

[JakeDaSnake]

Yea I second that, the revo is a RACER not a crawler... I dont even think e-maxxes are good crawlers because of all the mods you have to do... Im sure you can make an E-Maxx just as capable but its gonna cost you alot... anyway the clod/jugg and txt-1 are the world best crawler designs... in my opinion

Later
Jake

[skipstr71]

Even with all the money he could use, Ivan stuart tryed the independent suspention, and went back to the proven strait axle/coil overs. You just can beat it.. but thats just my oppinion.

[Fishmaxx]

I knew that would get a lot of you "Clod Heads" worked up

What I said was the tech behind the Revo might close the gap Not the Revo itself.

The beefier drive shafts will be on Maxx and TxT crawlers when they become available, and I bet some resourceful crawler will figure out a way the use those horziontal shocks. Both will improve performance.

Originally Posted by JakeDaSnake

Yea I second that, the revo is a RACER not a crawler... I dont even think e-maxxes are good crawlers because of all the mods you have to do... Im sure you can make an E-Maxx just as capable but its gonna cost you alot... anyway the clod/jugg and txt-1 are the world best crawler designs... in my opinion

Later
Jake

To quote Krod_Clod
"are you freakin serious?? lol "

Jake ....come on think about what you just said ............Out of the box a TXT is a far better crawler than a Clod , and so is a Maxx.

After a heck of a lot of mods and money the Clod seems to be the best crawler. However as you pointed out Clods have been around a long time. Give us Maxxers and TXT-Men 20 years, and we might figure it out to

[skipstr71]

I gotta say its seems a lot easyer to set up a clod, seince there is no driveshaft (center drive).. but it still not cheating. I just happen to like replicating 1:1's as much as posible, even if that sacrifices some articulation.

[JakeDaSnake]

Yea a stock clod SUCKS period, but there alot easier to mod than a Maxx is... cause you can make your own chassis very easily and a Maxx is alittle on the technical side, also look at full scale crawler, there solid axle... so doesn't it seem that that is the better design???

Me and my friend made a crawler E-maxx and it was the most capable thing in the world, because it had Jumbo Kongs, Torpedo Chassis, Mag Mahems, all CVDs but it was no fun to me...

Later
Jake

[Fishmaxx]

Nothing personal, but in my opinion your friend modded his Maxx the wrong way if used a Torpedo chassis. I made a TXT style chassis out of lexan, made a 4- link suspension 1/4 aluminium rod, put the stiffiest springs I could. ( basically making it a solid axle). Those mods cost less than $50. Still using 1x Titan.

As I said before.................give us time........Dinosaurs did not rule the world forever, and neither will the Clods?

PS....We seem to have changed the topic of this thread, so I am copying it to E-Maxx, TxT-1 or Clod??? in General Crawlers

[JakeDaSnake]

Well there you have it... its a solid axle... thats cool... but my piont was solid axle is the best way to go...

Later
Jake

[skipstr71]

Yea I agree.. I never seen a IFS rig on the rubicon, or at least make it through. You just cant beat the physics of it. As one wheel is driven up the other is forced down. Thats how I see it,wel;l theres more to it but thats the main beny