Clodiator

[muddeprived]

Here goes build #2.......


After completing the first build (JK Rubiclod) i decided to go another round with a different 1:6 body. I had a Jeep Gladiator truck body laying around and starting mocking up a frame for it but wanted to see what you guys thought about the choice of tire.




Too small or ok? The tires seem a little on the small side due to the huge wheelbase of this rig.

[AMorgan]

They look perfect for a scale build to me. They aren't replicating 42" tires, but they look right for some aggressive stock meats.

[cartronicshn]

They do seem to be on small side, like you metioned the wb is the determining factor here.

[muddeprived]

I wish someone made a 6" tire. They seem to stop at 5.5 for whatever reasons. Hey RC4WD, if you happen to read this, start rounding off!

[JavelinSST390]

The tires do seem a tad small. What aout All-t's?

Or maybe some Narrowed Imex clod-size tires?

[muddeprived]

Originally Posted by JavelinSST390

The tires do seem a tad small. What aout All-t's?

Or maybe some Narrowed Imex clod-size tires?

You can see the all-t holding the body up (front). It's the same height as the new tires there but wider. It does look a little better due to it's width but those all-t's are for the JK behind it. I tried the stompers on the jk but the jk's fender flares are alot wider than the gladiator and make the tires look even smaller.

I have 6.5" claws from the nylint but those suck and also a set of narrowed MGT's that are nearly 7" tall but those are toooo big.

I guess i'll build around the stompers for now and see how it turns out when i'm done. I might lower the body 1/2" more than what's shown so the tires appear a little bigger. I might make this a tow-rig for the JK with a REAL hitch.

[muddeprived]

or.......i could cut the extended cab off and shorten the wheelbase

[cartronicshn]

Originally Posted by muddeprived

or.......i could cut the extended cab off and shorten the wheelbase

That would look killer, also less likely to get hung up

[mysharona]

they look perfect to me, for a scale rig anyway.

[muddeprived]

Originally Posted by mysharona

they look perfect to me, for a scale rig anyway.

"300" fan? I like your avatar

[4xFord]

Man I love that body. I bought the same exact truck from walmart and broke it in its first outing. I decided to build it into a scale looking prerunner. I put a stampede front end under it, modded to accept the stock wheels and axle. And on the rear end, I opened up the gearbox, removed the stock like 270 size motor, and modded the motor plate to fit a 17T 540. I put oil shocks all around, locked the axle, blah blah. I will try to take some pics and post it in the scale forum. I used traxxas talon tires that are 5.75" I believe, and it looks really good in my opinion. I think the tires in the pic will look fine. a 6" tire would probably be ideal, but those are pretty awesome looking. Also, don't cut the body, it looks so nice as an extended cab!

Anyways, I love the look of that truck, and if it turns out anything like the JK, then we are all in for a treat.

[4xFord]

Somehow I missed the idea of making it a tow rig. I think that is a great idea. I would lower the body like 1/2" to 1" like you said and go that route, set it up as a trail/tow rig!

[muddeprived]

Originally Posted by 4xFord

Man I love that body. I bought the same exact truck from walmart and broke it in its first outing. I decided to build it into a scale looking prerunner. I put a stampede front end under it, modded to accept the stock wheels and axle. And on the rear end, I opened up the gearbox, removed the stock like 270 size motor, and modded the motor plate to fit a 17T 540. I put oil shocks all around, locked the axle, blah blah. I will try to take some pics and post it in the scale forum. I used traxxas talon tires that are 5.75" I believe, and it looks really good in my opinion. I think the tires in the pic will look fine. a 6" tire would probably be ideal, but those are pretty awesome looking. Also, don't cut the body, it looks so nice as an extended cab!

Anyways, I love the look of that truck, and if it turns out anything like the JK, then we are all in for a treat.

You will be ;). This one will be more time consuming and detailed better (steering box on frame, leaf springs (hopeful), coils and shocks seperate, trackbar, etc...but with clod axles but that's not so bad

I'm still debating on which motor/pinion setup to run. I'm probably gonna use the evx again and dual batteries. I want this rig to be able to crawl but still have plenty of wheelspeed to kick up some mud. The jk is 55t/10t and crawls great but not enough wheel speed to kick up any dirt. The only way i get the body dirty on that is by crawling behind my buddy's WK, which splashes me well

[4xFord]

Maybe a set of 27 turn motors then? That would be pretty sweet! With dual ESC's or the EVX you could run 2 7 cell NIMH for some pretty sweet wheel speed!

[muddeprived]

Originally Posted by 4xFord

Maybe a set of 27 turn motors then? That would be pretty sweet! With dual ESC's or the EVX you could run 2 7 cell NIMH for some pretty sweet wheel speed!

Do the 27t motors use bigger cans? I need the motor to be teh same size as my old integy 55t's due to upper arm clearances.

It's definately gonna get the evx out of my Rubiclod and some new dual 3600mah batteries. Now if i can just find some time to start on the frame.......

[muddeprived]

Got a little done today. Mocked up a frame with two temp crossmembers. Stuck on some red springs i had laying around and also bent up some axle tube supports that share the duty as lower coil spring mount. It's 1/2" steel that's a PITA to bend. I have to cut it at the top and bolt it on. The coil springs mount on the flat surface above the tube.





I think these springs are from a tmaxx or emaxx and i'm hoping they aren't too stiff to cause bouncing. I have some thick 1/2" steel that's got some weight to it and i am using those as crossmembers to add weight until i get to about 20 lbs (total vehicle weight) evenly distributed.

[muddeprived]

Rear coil springs on.





Right now it's at 3.3 lbs.
17 more lbs to go and it should be about 1/2-3/4" lower.

[4xFord]

Wow, very awesome. Are you going to run some springless shocks for the dampening duties? I really like the coil idea, nice and scale looking. Also, the 27 turn motors shouldn't be any bigger, but I think a lot of websites list the dimesions. But, for what its worth, I have two seperate brands 17 turn motors, and a set of 65 turn Axioms, and they are all the same size.

Oh, and what are you going to do on the front? If you go for the same setup, are you going to make up a drag link attached to a pitman (servo) arm?

[muddeprived]

Originally Posted by 4xFord

Wow, very awesome. Are you going to run some springless shocks for the dampening duties? I really like the coil idea, nice and scale looking. Also, the 27 turn motors shouldn't be any bigger, but I think a lot of websites list the dimesions. But, for what its worth, I have two seperate brands 17 turn motors, and a set of 65 turn Axioms, and they are all the same size.

Oh, and what are you going to do on the front? If you go for the same setup, are you going to make up a drag link attached to a pitman (servo) arm?

I plan to run a set of shocks in the rear (alone) depending on the height. I have t-maxx and savage shocks laying around so whatever the final height is will determine which shock to use. I'm gonna angle the shocks like they are on wranglers.

As for the front, i haven't gotten around to planning it. My goal is to do the same as the rear but that plans lookin slim. There's very little space between the center of the front fender and grill for a steering box. I thought of running it vertical on the front of the axle but that becomes a "bumper" and doesn't look right. If i can't copy the rear then i'll do coil-over in front.

[muddeprived]

Help me out with this motor decision:

As stated before, i want some wheel speed to sling mud and maybe launch it a couple inches (just a couple!!!) but still have some slow speed for technical spots. I'm not too familiar with what pinions are available but can i run like a 45t or 55t motor with a high tooth pinion, say 12t-21t and get some wheel speed from that setup? I don't mind going with 27t motors but i feel i will need some low end grunt with this heavy rig and doubting the 27t's can ditch out what i expect. I have no experience with any motor except my current 55t with 10t pinions.

Please share your setup and how it runs. Videos would be excellent too.

thanks