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CPE MT · 10-24-2006, 08:37 PM

25-30 ft drops?

You may want to invest in a parachute...

Glad it's working for you. Now all you need is more build projects to use our lockers on!

flexmonger · 10-24-2006, 08:40 PM

Can you give us the total weight of the rig as you have it set up now? Plus did you add weights to the rear tires?

dieselfuel · 10-24-2006, 10:54 PM

i like the idea but it seems like the chassis its self could be reduced a little in size to lower the COG... everything can be mounted on the axles so theres really no need for any mounting surfaces on the chassis...

Highmark · 10-24-2006, 11:10 PM

Werd-seems like there's alot of exta unneccesary stuff.

dieselfuel · 10-24-2006, 11:15 PM

yeah the links ad spring could all be mounted to a chunk of aluminum the size of a 1/4" scale servo.

flexmonger · 10-24-2006, 11:16 PM

I would think A redesign of the center chassis for more clearance and less weight would be nice, but not necessary. Along with using two of those torsen springs attached to the axles. One for the right and left. With a lower spring capacity they could act as leaf springs and better contol wheel hop and individual suspension cycling. This can be done with either an x pattern or a typical = parallel pattern for the spings mounted to the chassis.
All this would add cost to the chassis and maybe improve it. But for the price right now you cannot go wrong. I am getting one shipped right now to tweak and hammer on.

dieselfuel · 10-24-2006, 11:19 PM

there you go.... smaller center section, 2 crossed leaves and lower links... hmmm. if i knew what the spring material was i'd try it on my own...

flexmonger · 10-24-2006, 11:35 PM

The material looks like thicker strap material that they use to wrap like wood or heavy boxes.

dieselfuel · 10-24-2006, 11:54 PM

yeah i kinda thought that but im not sure...

JohnRobHolmes · 10-24-2006, 11:58 PM

Its spring steel

cartronicshn · 10-25-2006, 07:12 AM

hey guys i have to get back to you on the weight question, i don't have a scale, will get it weighed sometime this week, as for the suspension IMO i think it works really awesome out the box + weight on your tires, i have gone with 31/2 oz in front and 2oz in the back, and it works great, the cog works great to get over tall obstacles and clear tall edges, i think it is very good on horizontal inclines and climbs really well vertical, i would like to see any of your ideas to improve this design applied to THE CLAW

, i'am very interested and open to any suggestions

,

cartronicshn · 10-25-2006, 06:06 PM

so i went to test my CLAW with my new holmes hobbies outrunners and mambas and i was starting to enjoy myself and loving my new setup when it happened, i was supposed to drop from the big rock on to the small boulder and i missed

, instead i dropped the CLAW straight down 12 feet into rocks

, so i went to check the damage and i bent an axle and broke an axle tube, but the chassis was ok

, i have rolled this pup a couple times 20-25 ft, but never had it drop straight down, you can't really appreciate the depht from the pics but it's there.

dezfan · 10-25-2006, 06:49 PM

Ooops!

CPE MT · 10-25-2006, 07:04 PM

Ouch. Can't help you with the bent axle, but these would have helped greatly to prevent the axle tube(s) from breaking:

flexmonger · 10-25-2006, 07:06 PM

Now you can get the CPE aluminum knuckles and axle tube that you needed to upgrade to any way. WAAIITT a minute they dont produce those products.

Tricky Honduran, dont you know that trix are for kids. Tienes buena suerte, pon le mas peso in las llantas. Para que no se voltia.

cartronicshn · 10-26-2006, 08:24 AM

Dez

i know, Brett i know

, the worst part is i have several sets of stiffeners i haven't used. Flex the wheels have some lead weight already, it was actually my fault, i had done the same route last saturday with my axion motors on, i just let it crawl on the motor drag,as i was to exit the rock i hit the gas and i came out all right, but yesterday i forgot to factor in the 100% drag from the outrunners and when i let of the throttle it stopped and threw of my line and the rest is history

, o well live,crash, repair and learn

, thank god i have extra parts for this one.

cartronicshn · 10-27-2006, 06:01 PM

THE CLAW

is back again, it was awesome with brushless setup

, here are some pics

CPE MT · 10-28-2006, 08:27 AM

For those that asked, the completed chassis with links and torsion set-up weighs just over 12 oz.

flexmonger · 10-28-2006, 12:28 PM

Thanks Brett for making that great innovative product. Just got mine 2 nights ago and cant stop crawling with it. Super light, easy assembly and respectable clearance and low COG. I must have heavy axles, as it articulates way more than 80 degrees, as you stated. Now this thread and Holmes hobbies, got me thinking of going brushless.

cartronicshn · 10-28-2006, 01:23 PM

flex ali can say is, go for it !!bl is the way to go

10-25-2006, 06:06 PM	#52
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	so i went to test my CLAW with my new holmes hobbies outrunners and mambas and i was starting to enjoy myself and loving my new setup when it happened, i was supposed to drop from the big rock on to the small boulder and i missed , instead i dropped the CLAW straight down 12 feet into rocks , so i went to check the damage and i bent an axle and broke an axle tube, but the chassis was ok , i have rolled this pup a couple times 20-25 ft, but never had it drop straight down, you can't really appreciate the depht from the pics but it's there. Attached Images

10-27-2006, 06:01 PM	#57
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	THE CLAW is back again, it was awesome with brushless setup , here are some pics Attached Images

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10-24-2006, 08:37 PM	#41
CPE MT RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Home of the ORIGINAL Terminator chassis Posts: 1,252	25-30 ft drops? You may want to invest in a parachute... Glad it's working for you. Now all you need is more build projects to use our lockers on!

10-24-2006, 08:40 PM	#42
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Can you give us the total weight of the rig as you have it set up now? Plus did you add weights to the rear tires?

10-24-2006, 10:54 PM	#43
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	i like the idea but it seems like the chassis its self could be reduced a little in size to lower the COG... everything can be mounted on the axles so theres really no need for any mounting surfaces on the chassis...

10-24-2006, 11:10 PM	#44
Highmark I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 3,866	Werd-seems like there's alot of exta unneccesary stuff.

10-24-2006, 11:15 PM	#45
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	yeah the links ad spring could all be mounted to a chunk of aluminum the size of a 1/4" scale servo.

10-24-2006, 11:16 PM	#46
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	I would think A redesign of the center chassis for more clearance and less weight would be nice, but not necessary. Along with using two of those torsen springs attached to the axles. One for the right and left. With a lower spring capacity they could act as leaf springs and better contol wheel hop and individual suspension cycling. This can be done with either an x pattern or a typical = parallel pattern for the spings mounted to the chassis. All this would add cost to the chassis and maybe improve it. But for the price right now you cannot go wrong. I am getting one shipped right now to tweak and hammer on.

10-24-2006, 11:19 PM	#47
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	there you go.... smaller center section, 2 crossed leaves and lower links... hmmm. if i knew what the spring material was i'd try it on my own...

10-24-2006, 11:35 PM	#48
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	The material looks like thicker strap material that they use to wrap like wood or heavy boxes.

10-24-2006, 11:54 PM	#49
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	yeah i kinda thought that but im not sure...

10-24-2006, 11:58 PM	#50
JohnRobHolmes owner, Holmes Hobbies LLC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Volt up! Gear down! Posts: 20,290	Its spring steel

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10-25-2006, 06:49 PM	#53
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Ooops!

10-25-2006, 07:12 AM	#51
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	hey guys i have to get back to you on the weight question, i don't have a scale, will get it weighed sometime this week, as for the suspension IMO i think it works really awesome out the box + weight on your tires, i have gone with 31/2 oz in front and 2oz in the back, and it works great, the cog works great to get over tall obstacles and clear tall edges, i think it is very good on horizontal inclines and climbs really well vertical, i would like to see any of your ideas to improve this design applied to THE CLAW , i'am very interested and open to any suggestions ,

10-25-2006, 07:04 PM	#54
CPE MT RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Home of the ORIGINAL Terminator chassis Posts: 1,252	Ouch. Can't help you with the bent axle, but these would have helped greatly to prevent the axle tube(s) from breaking:

10-25-2006, 07:06 PM	#55
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Now you can get the CPE aluminum knuckles and axle tube that you needed to upgrade to any way. WAAIITT a minute they dont produce those products. Tricky Honduran, dont you know that trix are for kids. Tienes buena suerte, pon le mas peso in las llantas. Para que no se voltia.

10-26-2006, 08:24 AM	#56
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	Dez i know, Brett i know , the worst part is i have several sets of stiffeners i haven't used. Flex the wheels have some lead weight already, it was actually my fault, i had done the same route last saturday with my axion motors on, i just let it crawl on the motor drag,as i was to exit the rock i hit the gas and i came out all right, but yesterday i forgot to factor in the 100% drag from the outrunners and when i let of the throttle it stopped and threw of my line and the rest is history , o well live,crash, repair and learn , thank god i have extra parts for this one.

10-28-2006, 08:27 AM	#58
CPE MT RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Home of the ORIGINAL Terminator chassis Posts: 1,252	For those that asked, the completed chassis with links and torsion set-up weighs just over 12 oz.

10-28-2006, 12:28 PM	#59
flexmonger Pebble Pounder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: hillsboro Posts: 172	Thanks Brett for making that great innovative product. Just got mine 2 nights ago and cant stop crawling with it. Super light, easy assembly and respectable clearance and low COG. I must have heavy axles, as it articulates way more than 80 degrees, as you stated. Now this thread and Holmes hobbies, got me thinking of going brushless.

10-28-2006, 01:23 PM	#60
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	flex ali can say is, go for it !!bl is the way to go

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