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Old 11-26-2006, 08:56 PM   #1
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I just got finished installing my CVD's. I ground the knuckles for clearance.
I get great steering angle but the problem is that I cant use it all.

If I turn both sides to full lock the tie rod is about 1/4" to short. But when the wheels are straight its perfect length.

I concluded that this is because as the knuckles cycle its gets to a point to where one knuckle is not pushing the tie rod anymore just moving it closer to the axles center line.

Those of you that have CVD's how have you got around this?? Or do you just not use all of the steering abality?
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:27 AM   #2
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im not running CVDs but ive got my stockies crazy modified. you may be running into the same situation as me. your tie rod is a straight pull situation. your knuckles are turned so far that the tie rod is a straight pull on the arm on the knuckle only way i see to fix it is to extend the arm on the knuckle.
but with you using 4ws. i think youve got more than enough. im only running 2ws. and thats whats limiting my steering. my knuckles can go further, just the tie rods have no angle left to pull on hte knuckle arms.

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I just got finished installing my CVD's. I ground the knuckles for clearance.
I get great steering angle but the problem is that I cant use it all.

If I turn both sides to full lock the tie rod is about 1/4" to short. But when the wheels are straight its perfect length.

I concluded that this is because as the knuckles cycle its gets to a point to where one knuckle is not pushing the tie rod anymore just moving it closer to the axles center line.

Those of you that have CVD's how have you got around this?? Or do you just not use all of the steering abality?
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:33 AM   #3
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In order to make use of the extra throw at the knuckles you will need to use a longer servo horn to increase the throw of the servo.

This will make your servo push with less force though, so in order to keep the same truning force you will need a stronger servo to make up for it. Jason's Hustler tuber uses a 1/4 scale servo.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:15 AM   #4
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In order to make use of the extra throw at the knuckles you will need to use a longer servo horn to increase the throw of the servo.

This will make your servo push with less force though, so in order to keep the same truning force you will need a stronger servo to make up for it. Jason's Hustler tuber uses a 1/4 scale servo.
Yea I did that, its not a servo throw problem. As Stang killa mentioned it just gets to a point to where it is pulling straight on the knuckle instead of pulling it around in a arc.

I did think about extending the knuckles a little but with both my draglink and tie rod bent for clearance it already sticks pretty far out there.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:24 AM   #5
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Yea I did that, its not a servo throw problem. As Stang killa mentioned it just gets to a point to where it is pulling straight on the knuckle instead of pulling it around in a arc.

I did think about extending the knuckles a little but with both my draglink and tie rod bent for clearance it already sticks pretty far out there.
Ah, well then hopefully someone who has made it work will chime in about how they did it.
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:59 AM   #6
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85 i think were just steering greedy. i think most have just called that point "good enough"
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:09 PM   #7
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Yea I ran into this on my pimp cane clod with 1/4 scales I solved it with aluminum knuckles I was then maxing out the cvd's
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Old 11-27-2006, 12:52 PM   #8
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if your looking for more knuckle throw your going to have to get a longer servo horn.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:00 PM   #9
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if your looking for more knuckle throw your going to have to get a longer servo horn.
lol these guys crack me up. they just dont read.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:20 PM   #10
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Yea I ran into this on my pimp cane clod with 1/4 scales I solved it with aluminum knuckles I was then maxing out the cvd's
Are the aluminum ones longer??? I know they have 2 mounting holes. Mine should be here any minute from the brown truck so hopefully they will allow more
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