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Old 02-22-2005, 10:01 AM   #21
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awesome semi-scaler. Your original clod the Duke was a huge inspiration to build my TLT-axled rig. I love the coil sprung suspension, unconventional and a lot more work, but it's sick.
Thanks sicj, I'm glad you like it. I am impressed with your coil spring suspension on Immolator as well. Also how you widened the axles. Keep up the good werk.
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:54 AM   #22
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1 3/8", what's a TLT measure?
Well mine measures the same 1 3/8" so I guess it's just the overall size. Maybe I'll shave mine and see how it holds up since I have a new housing coming.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:51 PM   #23
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Well mine measures the same 1 3/8" so I guess it's just the overall size. Maybe I'll shave mine and see how it holds up since I have a new housing coming.
I think that the Clod axles being wider and having the same diff clearance will give an advantage to the TLT in some situations for sure, and even more so if you shave your TLT diffs, just like we see in 1:1 stuff.
The width of the Clod axles will help with stability in other situations and the low cg of the clod will help as well. The Clod has to carry two motors so the TLT gets the nod weight wise.

Overall I think the Clod axle 2.2 rigs will show their worth.

I would love to compare mine to your tuber since weight wise they are pretty close, maybe someday.
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man that is one sharp looking rig i loved the way that the superduke looked I spent alot of time looking at pictures of it to get ideas to build my clod but the scale one looks just as good
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man that is one sharp looking rig i loved the way that the superduke looked I spent alot of time looking at pictures of it to get ideas to build my clod but the scale one looks just as good
Thanks boner, I think the scale one looks a little better because the coil spring suspension looks more at home with the shorter wheelbase. I wanted to do coils in the front but couldnt figure out where to put the steering servo.

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Grizz, you never siese to amaze me. Nice job. I've been thinking about building a scale Clod myself. You have given me new hope. Rock on.
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Nice looking rig. You guys going to hold a comp. soon? I loved competing with the 2.2's. There a tone of fun!

You mentioned in your description that you use a Novak Rooster. Are you using a Rooster or a Super Rooster? The reason I ask is that I need another speedo and was thinking about picking up a Rooster for the 2.2 but was afraid that it may not hold up to the dual motor and such. I know that the forward and reverse amps are significantly lower with the plain Rooster.

Just curious.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:46 AM   #28
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Are you using a Rooster or a Super Rooster? The reason I ask is that I need another speedo and was thinking about picking up a Rooster for the 2.2 but was afraid that it may not hold up to the dual motor and such. I know that the forward and reverse amps are significantly lower with the plain Rooster.

Just curious.
You read right, just a regular Rooster. I ran one for a long time with the stock motors in The Duke before with no problems until I went to the big tires. The only time it balks is when I run the winch, the motors, and the steering all at the same time; or if the battery starts to get low.
I caint say it werks perfect because I have only had it out one time and had a few glitching issues that caused the winch to activate at weird times. So far it seems to be werking fine, especially when the winch is not plugged in; I may add an on off switch for the winch. Remember, I am also running a digital steering servo so I am really pushing the BEC, using an analog 645 may eliminate all the glitches I am seeing.

I think a comp may happen fairly soon, you guys will be informed for sure. I really love running the 2.2 Clods too.

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Old 02-24-2005, 11:24 AM   #29
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Grizz, you never siese to amaze me. Nice job. I've been thinking about building a scale Clod myself. You have given me new hope. Rock on.
Glad you like it Texrok. I hope you do build one, they are alot of fun and you could whoop up on C-Man's Bummer.
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But he wont whoop up on my tlt!

Nice clod grizz, lookin good!
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Old 02-24-2005, 04:56 PM   #31
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But he wont whoop up on my tlt!

Nice clod grizz, lookin good!
Just keep tellin yerself that Kid.

Thanks for the complimizzle!
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:47 PM   #32
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After much waiting I finally got my hands on some Imex 2.2 All-T tires. These things are huge!! The rubber compund feels like it is the same as the JSD's so I think they will hook up well.
I mounted them with no foam so the axle clearance is about the same as with the Masher 2000's but the tread flattens out nicely. I will run some kind of foam because the sidwalls are HUGE and may not be very stable without it. I will experiment a little.
I threw a stock body on so that the size reference would be easier to see than with my hacked body.
Thats a Maxx size wheel under the chassis.
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I took some width measurements as well.

The wheels I use are for a Traxxas Electric Stampede. The Stampede front wheels have less backspacing so they push the tires away from the chassis. I measured from the very outside edge of the lugs. The narrowed wheels have the outer bead lip cut off on the inside and outside of the wheel.

Imex All-T
Traxxas front: 13.5"
RPM Rear: 12.5"
RPM rear narrowed: 12.375"

Masher 2000
Traxxas rear narowed: 11.5"

As soon as I get a chance I will get these out on the rocks.
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dang those ar perfect for clod based 2.2 crawlers. might be a little big for a tlt though.
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Old 02-25-2005, 12:16 PM   #35
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So is the rubber feel soft? How do they compare to other imex 2.2 tires?
The only other Imex tire I own is the G-Hawgs, the All-T rubber feels like a softer durometer and stickier.

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dang those ar perfect for clod based 2.2 crawlers. might be a little big for a tlt though.
I agree, they may be overkill for a TLT but I'm sure someone will try them.

Bronco bodies are about 1/8 scale so the All-T is about 44" scale (Masher 2000 is about 40"), if you narrowed them they would look more scale for a 44" tire.

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Old 02-25-2005, 08:18 PM   #36
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MAN GRIZZ THOSE NEW TIRES LOOK GOOD ON THAT BRONCO NOW i WANT TO BUILD A REPLICA OF MY 72 BRONCO
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Old 02-26-2005, 09:50 PM   #37
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Hey Griz, I got a question for 'ya...

I don't much about clods, and even less about 2.2's and I'm getting ready to build one. Do you need adapters to run the maxx 2.2 wheels? I'm not sure if the hex's are the same on the 2.2's as the regular emaxx sized wheels.

By the way, it's gonna be a 2.2......on a stick!
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Old 02-26-2005, 10:03 PM   #38
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2.2's generally run a 12mm hex
maxx wheels run a 14mm hex
ofna and 1/8 buggy wheels run a 17mm hex

pull the adapters off the clods and you'll find that they're brass 12mm hexes underneath, and will bolt up to a 2.2 size rim, but won't fit a maxx rim.

that and maxx wheels are larger than 2.2 in their rim diameter...
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Griz.... will you hurry up and test them My All-T's should be here next week and WILL go on my TLT....... I shall name it.... The Mini-'Tot
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Thanks RadishKid. Now at least I won't look lost at the LHS tomorrow....
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