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Old 03-26-2008, 01:37 AM   #21
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Sweet build,but where do you get piano wire?I built a homemade BMV style truck with some 1/8" rods but they will bend when i bind my junk up.Keep up the good work and definately a build I will be following
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You can pick up Piano or also called music wire at your LHS.

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This is absolutely one of the coolest ideas I've seen in a while. Only thing I want to know is how well does it work?

Check your LHS. It's often called "music wire" model airplanes use it for control surface linkage and what not.

Man it drives like crap! he he
I drove Torry's rig last year and was extremely impressed at the way it handled. Very predictable, stable, especially on off camber situations. When off camber and you have one of your front wheels in the air all you have to do is get the opposing rear tire to hook up and it drops your front tire down.

I'm currently in 2nd place outta 48 competitors in this winter series. The rig has a little something to do with that.

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Interesting idea!!

But what do you do if you don't like it? Is there any "adjustability" in it?
Ah.....Wha????

Also want to thank all you PNWer's for the props. You know who you are!
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:15 AM   #22
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Here's a close up of the rods mounted to the stays.




Axle mounting plates were fabbed up.
The front axle plate will hold the motor, GD600, and Hitec 5995.
For the rear I chose to mount the Mamba Max and Hitec 645 for the dig.
Everything will sit nice and low on this rig.





Third links were added to reduce possible axle wrap.






I'm on the home stretch now!!

Its Tranny Time!!

For the 2gen XXX Losi tranny to sit solid, I used a couple of the spacers found in the TLT kit.
Even with only two screws holding the tranny, it has held tight for 6months.



Installed the motor and GD600 to the front axle plate. Thats purdy lookin'!!





I used Traxxas Stampede steel drive yokes and Jato drive shafts to connect the GD600 to the XXX Losi tranny.






Stay tuned.
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:45 AM   #23
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Wow that is a unusual departure from 99% of the current comp rig designs.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:27 AM   #24
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nuts , i like it alot, looking foward to this builds completion and maybe video?
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:09 PM   #25
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Noob question time. Is the seemingly cantilevered effect of the torsion wires themselves that make this such a popular truck? Are those sideplates to be used as shock towers?

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Old 03-26-2008, 06:11 PM   #26
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Oh, and btw that truck is awesome and if it performs as well as they say it will, I am building one. My current torsion is not very good and could use damping of some kind.
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Old 03-26-2008, 06:40 PM   #27
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Do you know what your final drive ratio is going to be?
looks good
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Old 03-27-2008, 01:53 AM   #28
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All that needs to be installed now is the electronics.

Installed the Hitec 645 and the Mamba Max to the rear axle plate.



The servos are spliced and connected to the CC BEC. Only the signal wires are plugged into the Nomadio transceiver.
The Hitec 5995 was installed to the front axle plate.






Buttoning things up.

The last thing to do was wire and solder the rest of the electronics.

Power is supplied by a 1320mah 11.1v 3S Lipo.







I hope to get some vids before I take off for a little R&R for a couple of days.
Hopefully I'll be sportin' my new RCC Team Driver lid soon. When it arrives I'll make sure to post.


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Old 03-27-2008, 08:51 AM   #29
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Ok, body post mounts, not shock towers. Very innovative use of torsion. I aplaud you and cant wait to see the vids.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:57 AM   #30
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Looks very good Mike, I like the highsteer knuckles from TammiesHobbies
....your workspace is still too clean, how can you lose anything when it's like that:-P
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Looks very good Mike, I like the highsteer knuckles from TammiesHobbies
....your workspace is still too clean, how can you lose anything when it's like that:-P
Ya. I purchased the high steer from Tammies with the intentions of using it for my BTA steering. But I ran into way too many issues with the wires being in the way limiting throw from the servo.
If you notice the front plates you'll see a rectangular hole. That is where the servo arm sits when the servo is reversed.

I may revisit it when I raise the chassis a 1/4 inch. There have been times I can get the rig to completely sit on its side when I get in an off camber situation and can drive it off from that position. So I think I can sacrifice a little CG for more clearance.
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Old 03-27-2008, 12:31 PM   #32
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Nice build pics Mike.

I do appreciate it. Since I know you tore it down to do the build pics ;)

I had a hard time seeing the wires crossover in my minds eye. the pics helped a lot.

What is your opinion on a heavy wheel tire setup, with a torsion truck and what do yours weigh in at?

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Nice build pics Mike.

I do appreciate it. Since I know you tore it down to do the build pics ;)

I had a hard time seeing the wires crossover in my minds eye. the pics helped a lot.

What is your opinion on a heavy wheel tire setup, with a torsion truck and what do yours weigh in at?

-peter-
Hey Peter,

I haven't weighed my tires but I have been running JP's Kreepy reds in the front and stock in the rears. Ben's MSD Top Guns are a perfect weight. No other weight needed but the foams in my opinion.

I've tested running a lighter setup and also tried running the weight even front and rear with different wheel tire combos but this seems to be the perfect setup for my application.

Mike

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Old 03-27-2008, 04:40 PM   #34
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Sweet rig. One of the best I've seen in a while. Keep up the good work.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:22 PM   #35
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where is the 90 degree articultating picture?
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:27 PM   #36
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damn dude this one cool build,i want one.You really got my mind a spinnin now,wouldnt be cool to build a pillow block to hold the pinion gear on the chassis and put the spur back on the tranny then you could get rid of the bulkey and high c.g. of the gear reduction unit.Then you would just run youre drivline to the pinion mounted in the pillow block.Just an idea that popped in into my scull.

And maybe you could build another motor mount that would lay that motor down behind the axle all nice in low in stuff.Just some ideas to bounce off ya,be kind of a beotch to build but it would be coolness and nice and eavan low c.g.
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damn dude this one cool build,i want one.You really got my mind a spinnin now,wouldnt be cool to build a pillow block to hold the pinion gear on the chassis and put the spur back on the tranny then you could get rid of the bulkey and high c.g. of the gear reduction unit.Then you would just run youre drivline to the pinion mounted in the pillow block.Just an idea that popped in into my scull.

And maybe you could build another motor mount that would lay that motor down behind the axle all nice in low in stuff.Just some ideas to bounce off ya,be kind of a beotch to build but it would be coolness and nice and eavan lower c.g.
does the motor torque rotate in such a way that it tries to lift the right frnt tire.Im sure it doesnt literally lift the tire but is that the direction of rotation? again awsome build man,i really dig how you cut the threads on the wire and youre mounting of them on the axle instead of just putting them in a block like you see so many do.
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Innovative and fresh!
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Old 03-28-2008, 05:21 PM   #40
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Mike, this is without compare when it comes to build threads. Not only a photographic step by step, but a how too as well. And we here in the PNW know how damn effective this rig is, much to our dismay

And again props to I.B. Racin, the man behind the myth.
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