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Brandon · 08-21-2006, 10:34 AM

The crawler store has them: http://www.thecrawlerstore.com/wheelproducts.html

4th item down.

Double J · 08-25-2006, 11:43 AM

OK when searching for the blackfoot wideners I found a couple differnt ones, or would they all be basicly the same.
The ones I found on the Tamiya site says TG10 - MA12 Part#50823
And at Tower I fount Tamiya Wheel Bag 58110 they are 1 11/16" long.

If anyone has a direct link to the ones I should be getting can you post it.
Thanks

dieselfuel · 08-25-2006, 11:49 AM

yeah i'd like to locate a set of blackfoot stubs myself..

superelmer · 08-25-2006, 12:24 PM

i ordered the tower part #58110. works fine....

Double J · 08-25-2006, 03:30 PM

so it is the TG10 ones then? or is the TG10 the same as the TLT kits?

Double J · 08-25-2006, 03:49 PM

I have another question. Has anyone used the associated 3/16 axle stubs.
See here http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCCZ6&P=7

They are 1.70" (43.2mm) long with a diamater of 3/16" (?? 4 or 5mm or somewhere in there, maybe 4.5mm).

Double J · 08-25-2006, 07:54 PM

FYI... The above axle stubs work great and are easier to obtain than the black foot. Only problem is you have to do a couple simple mods to it.

1. bor the plastic hex nut with a 3/16" bit.
2. shaved a little off the dog bone end. only like 1/16".
3. Optional.. bor out the center where the dog bon goes. The ones on the tlt are just a smidge larger.
4. I had to use a brad nail that just fit, cut to size for the pin that holds the hex on with.

The nyloc screw has plenty of thread for it.
I'm using pede rears on it with moabs. refer to dilatory build.

I'll get pics on Monday.

TLTRyan · 08-27-2006, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superelmer

i ordered the tower part #58110. works fine....

I am using them as well. Adds .5 inch total

DoubleJ:
How much wider did the AE shafts make your truck?

Double J · 08-28-2006, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLTRyan

I am using them as well. Adds .5 inch total

DoubleJ:
How much wider did the AE shafts make your truck?

didn't measure it. But I was happy to have enough thread to put the nyloc's on with. If I had to guess I would say about .5" or around there somewhere. I'll measure later tonight.

Edit - Sorry for not updating this earlier but looks like it didn't matter. I measured the axles from one end of the stub to the other end. It is in fact just about 1/2 longer than stock. It's not much but it works.. Hope this helps.
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ede670 · 10-02-2006, 09:38 AM

Hi All

I also need some widners and was planning the tg10 route however I have come across another part for the tg10 that might be wider still ....Tamiya part 50823 is the standard however TG10 Long Wheel Axle - 50808 are 38.1mm could someone please advise would these work as I was hoping to get more than the extra 1/2 inch from the 50823 ones

cheers

sleek6mt · 10-22-2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ede670

Hi All

I also need some widners and was planning the tg10 route however I have come across another part for the tg10 that might be wider still ....Tamiya part 50823 is the standard however TG10 Long Wheel Axle - 50808 are 38.1mm could someone please advise would these work as I was hoping to get more than the extra 1/2 inch from the 50823 ones

cheers

good ?, anyone

CPE MT · 11-12-2006, 01:03 PM

We now offer aluminum hex-drive 12-12mm wheel spacers for the TLT. These are designed to fit right over the stock drive hex, and provide 3/4" offset per side. Due to different offsets on the numerous 2.2 sized wheels available, your overall vehicle width may differ. Expect to see an overall width between 11-12", well under the legal limit for the 2.2 crawler class.

Visit our website or click on the link http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49329 to go to the Vendors Market here to purchase these!

dieselfuel · 12-01-2006, 09:00 PM

i just installed some blackfoot stubs on my sw2... theyre awesome! i love the stance, right at 10 1/4" when its dont charging ill get some pics of it crawlin.

Harlok67 · 12-06-2006, 12:34 PM

small question:
but the widener tobee from 36 milimeter increases the track
of 36 for part or 36 milimeter in total dx+sx?

tank

Natedog · 12-27-2006, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by william g

ifusing pede wheels you'll notice they are "thick" so the locknut dooesn't catch enough threads

try the hex's for a tc3 touring car, much thinner than the tamiya hex's

But is it enough? ATM I only have one thread with my pede wheels on stock TLT axles.

ALso if I use the TG-10 stub axles (Tamiya # 50808 ) will I be able to get the wheel nut on all the way or most of the way?

None of my lhs carry **** for Tamiya parts...but they'll sell ya a Clod or TLT.

Natedog · 01-08-2007, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Natedog

...I only have one thread with my pede wheels on stock TLT axles.

ALso if I use the TG-10 stub axles (Tamiya # 50808 ) will I be able to get the wheel nut on all the way or most of the way?

ANswer my own question to help others here, now that I have a complete set of the three different axles and the wheel hexes. # 50808 gets the nut on all the way with the pede wheels and Tamiya or Traxxas wheel hexes. The Super Blackfoot axles # 58110 get the nut on just barely into the nylock part of the nut with Tamiya or Traxxas wheel hex. The TC3 graphite wheel hexes #3949 need to be drilled out, but even so the axle pin is larger diameter and doesn't fit down into the groove on the backside of the hex properly. I see no way to properly widen and deepen the groove in these without a mill....anybody?

BlueMonster · 01-09-2007, 01:40 AM

I am running the Crawford wideners and I like them just fine. Nice machinework, work great.

gopher · 01-09-2007, 08:53 AM

question tho... the chart says 12mm-30mm even bigger i've noticed tobee has (40 or 48mm?!)

anyhow... is that overall length? or just one side?

so would a set of 12mm increase 12mm overall, or 24mm? my assumption is 12mm

lonwlf · 01-16-2007, 07:39 PM

If a shop could design a new metal knuckle with the wideners built in it would be better since you could get 2 upgrades at once.If they already have these and I just haven't seen them then sorry for the idea.

mascman · 02-08-2007, 05:35 PM

I'm using the Associated ones that DoubleJ mentioned above.

If I had to do it again, I'd either order a kit or use the Blackfoot ones.

I drilled into the dogbones because the axle ends don't go in far enough. I also took the dremel to the end of the axles because my drill bit bites!

Now, I either have to drill out the hole for the hex pin or find something like the nail that DoubleJ found.

Pretty much would be done with the axles if i didn't have to dick with these ASSociated stubs!

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Harlok67 Rock Stacker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in europe Posts: 73	widener tobee 36 mm small question: but the widener tobee from 36 milimeter increases the track of 36 for part or 36 milimeter in total dx+sx? tank

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08-21-2006, 10:34 AM	#41
Brandon Im Brandon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colfax, CA Posts: 8,156	The crawler store has them: http://www.thecrawlerstore.com/wheelproducts.html 4th item down.

08-25-2006, 11:43 AM	#42
Double J I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: between heaven and hell. Posts: 3,367	OK when searching for the blackfoot wideners I found a couple differnt ones, or would they all be basicly the same. The ones I found on the Tamiya site says TG10 - MA12 Part#50823 And at Tower I fount Tamiya Wheel Bag 58110 they are 1 11/16" long. If anyone has a direct link to the ones I should be getting can you post it. Thanks

08-25-2006, 11:49 AM	#43
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	yeah i'd like to locate a set of blackfoot stubs myself..

08-25-2006, 12:24 PM	#44
superelmer Quarry Creeper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: los alamitos Posts: 205	i ordered the tower part #58110. works fine....

08-25-2006, 03:30 PM	#45
Double J I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: between heaven and hell. Posts: 3,367	so it is the TG10 ones then? or is the TG10 the same as the TLT kits?

08-25-2006, 03:49 PM	#46
Double J I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: between heaven and hell. Posts: 3,367	I have another question. Has anyone used the associated 3/16 axle stubs. See here http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCCZ6&P=7 They are 1.70" (43.2mm) long with a diamater of 3/16" (?? 4 or 5mm or somewhere in there, maybe 4.5mm).

08-25-2006, 07:54 PM	#47
Double J I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: between heaven and hell. Posts: 3,367	FYI... The above axle stubs work great and are easier to obtain than the black foot. Only problem is you have to do a couple simple mods to it. 1. bor the plastic hex nut with a 3/16" bit. 2. shaved a little off the dog bone end. only like 1/16". 3. Optional.. bor out the center where the dog bon goes. The ones on the tlt are just a smidge larger. 4. I had to use a brad nail that just fit, cut to size for the pin that holds the hex on with. The nyloc screw has plenty of thread for it. I'm using pede rears on it with moabs. refer to dilatory build. I'll get pics on Monday.

10-02-2006, 09:38 AM	#50
ede670 Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlands Scotland Posts: 102	Hi All I also need some widners and was planning the tg10 route however I have come across another part for the tg10 that might be wider still ....Tamiya part 50823 is the standard however TG10 Long Wheel Axle - 50808 are 38.1mm could someone please advise would these work as I was hoping to get more than the extra 1/2 inch from the 50823 ones cheers Last edited by ede670; 10-02-2006 at 09:55 AM.

11-12-2006, 01:03 PM	#52
CPE MT RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Home of the ORIGINAL Terminator chassis Posts: 1,252	We now offer aluminum hex-drive 12-12mm wheel spacers for the TLT. These are designed to fit right over the stock drive hex, and provide 3/4" offset per side. Due to different offsets on the numerous 2.2 sized wheels available, your overall vehicle width may differ. Expect to see an overall width between 11-12", well under the legal limit for the 2.2 crawler class. Visit our website or click on the link http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49329 to go to the Vendors Market here to purchase these!

12-01-2006, 09:00 PM	#53
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	i just installed some blackfoot stubs on my sw2... theyre awesome! i love the stance, right at 10 1/4" when its dont charging ill get some pics of it crawlin.

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01-09-2007, 01:40 AM	#57
BlueMonster RCC Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,437	I am running the Crawford wideners and I like them just fine. Nice machinework, work great.

01-09-2007, 08:53 AM	#58
gopher Quarry Creeper Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: the creek Posts: 396	question tho... the chart says 12mm-30mm even bigger i've noticed tobee has (40 or 48mm?!) anyhow... is that overall length? or just one side? so would a set of 12mm increase 12mm overall, or 24mm? my assumption is 12mm

01-16-2007, 07:39 PM	#59
lonwlf Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: boring Posts: 38	If a shop could design a new metal knuckle with the wideners built in it would be better since you could get 2 upgrades at once.If they already have these and I just haven't seen them then sorry for the idea.

02-08-2007, 05:35 PM	#60
mascman Rock Crawler Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Near Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 911	I'm using the Associated ones that DoubleJ mentioned above. If I had to do it again, I'd either order a kit or use the Blackfoot ones. I drilled into the dogbones because the axle ends don't go in far enough. I also took the dremel to the end of the axles because my drill bit bites! Now, I either have to drill out the hole for the hex pin or find something like the nail that DoubleJ found. Pretty much would be done with the axles if i didn't have to dick with these ASSociated stubs!

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