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Old 03-31-2006, 08:44 PM   #1
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Is it possible to use a pair of GD600s as the transmissions for a TLT scale crawler. Can the GC600 use Maxx sliders to connect directly to TLT axles? I want to use one GD600 and one motor to power the front and ones for the rear. Each of the motors would turn in the opposite direction to help eliminate torque twist. I want to build a custom frame with rails for this truck.
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thats alot of space, and not much reduction. I built my own tranny with some gears made by traxxas and slapped a GD600 in front of it. Just get two stepped gears and have them face eachother, and run your driveshafts off that, you will end up with counter rotational output, and save alot of space

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Sure it would work. You'd get a little stall in the rear axle when crawling though. Also I don't think that it would be geared low enough just going through one GD600 per axle. Would be a pretty fast crawler.
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Well no one ever said I was the sharpest tool in the shed, but isn't the reduction ratio on the GD600 something like 2.5:1 where the Pede, Stealth or even stock TLT is more like 20:1 or 25:1? And if you run the motors in opposite directions, won't the axles also tunr in opposite directions?

Seems like you would end up with a truck where each axle would want to go very fast in opposite directions.
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Seems like you would end up with a truck where each axle would want to go very fast in opposite directions.
If I remember right mounting the rear TLT axles upside down will allow it to turn the right direction.

How fast will the truck go with dual 65 turn lath motors?
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Yeah, the reduction isn't that low with the gd600's. Depending on what pinion you use, you might get a 3.5? If we were drag racing up rocks/inclines this would be the way to go.
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If I remember right mounting the rear TLT axles upside down will allow it to turn the right direction.

How fast will the truck go with dual 65 turn lath motors?

Well I just got a 65t and at 9.6 volts this thing is SLOW. Flipping a tlt axle would make it turn the right direction. But If you are going to go this route I would just reverse polarity on one of the motors.
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yeah a pede tranny is like 2.7:1 and the GD600 is 2.5:1....

I am in the same boat as you and been trying to figure out a way to make a transfer case or just my own small trans.. I just ain't the sharpest tool in the shed and have been trying to figure out what to use for teh GD600 to get the shafts coming out for both the front and rear. I seen a post when searching, I think it was Twinset that built the truck. He just had 2 gears side by side and had different rotation for each axle. The counter rotation is supposed to help with torque twist. he just flipped the rear axle upside downa nd dremeled off the servo mount.
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yeah a pede tranny is like 2.7:1 and the GD600 is 2.5:1....

I am in the same boat as you and been trying to figure out a way to make a transfer case or just my own small trans.. I just ain't the sharpest tool in the shed and have been trying to figure out what to use for teh GD600 to get the shafts coming out for both the front and rear. I seen a post when searching, I think it was Twinset that built the truck. He just had 2 gears side by side and had different rotation for each axle. The counter rotation is supposed to help with torque twist. he just flipped the rear axle upside downa nd dremeled off the servo mount.
I was hoping that by using two motors turning opposite directions I would eliminate the torque twist. The GD600s can be laid flat so the CG would be low. Weight is not an issue for me since I am not going to be running it in any comps (none in my area.) I want something different that is my own from the ground up. I hope this will work for a tranny.
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yeah a pede tranny is like 2.7:1 and the GD600 is 2.5:1....

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I would have never guessed a gd600 as a tranny. Thats a really good idea. Let us know if any of this works.
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Would it be possible to use a gd600 that turns an output shaft into another one of the small airplane gearboxes?
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I think the era of Pede trannies might be over with the ideas of the more compact units coming.
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Stampede, rustler, and bandit transmission all have an internal gear ratio of 2.72:1. When the spur and pinion combination are added, the overall ratio for most crawlers is somewhere around 19:1. The absolute lowest possible combination (in 48 pitch gears), results in a 21:1 ratio.

The lowest possible gear ratio for a single GD-600 is 3.8:1 (12/46).
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Ok he was talking about internal ratios. I usually go by what the unit itself is capable of. The GD600 could be used as a transfer case if we could just put a longer shaft through it's spur gear. I had though about stacking a few Kontronic planet drives together (part number KPG25). Would be an expensive transmission though. They have then down to a 5.2:1 reduction.
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Here, Update TF Crawler! I made this tranny with rough teeth gears, for my larger application.. same principle will work with smaller size, just use fine teeth stepped gears, and then use fine teeth pinions. My transmission is a total of 8.25:1 and then I have the GD600 at 2.5:1 (though you can get 3.8:1) so I get great reduction before my axles


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