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Old 05-19-2011, 01:28 AM   #1
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I was approached by a member about making some custom Cs for the TLT axles that would have added caster made into them. Now, before I go stepping on anyone's toes....

1. Does anyone else make them already?
2. Would anyone else be interested in me making these?

Just got to get that out of the way as I am not too familiar with the TLT side of things.

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Old 05-19-2011, 01:00 PM   #2
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Fatrock used to make some out of aluminum....but that was LONG ago and they havent been a presence on this board in a while now.

On most of my TLTs, I run his non-clocked knuckles that are made from stainless:


If you do plan to make these and your design is similar (not with a bearing around the kingpin), please do not make them out of aluminum....they will wear easily.

And yes, I am VERY interested!
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:35 PM   #3
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1. Steel not aluminum for sure.
2. How about a link/shock mount on them also?
3. How about making a tube that fits axial c's and knuckles so we can tap into some of the goodies that would offer like using vp highsteers? Would take a little work on aligning it all but it will work. Ive used a similar setup that had a clockable round tube like the others. Not only did I get better knuckles it is very easy to make the axle shorter or longer this way.
4. Make them go all the way to the diff bearings to eliminate any flex that can separate the r&p.

#2 most likely wont work with a tube style that is more of an idea on the fatrock style c
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:51 PM   #4
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I would take some fatrock copies in stainless.
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And yes, I am VERY interested!

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All I own are TLT axles. Too cheap I guess to switch to Axial.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:04 PM   #6
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I'm good for (4) axles worth.
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:29 PM   #7
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OK guys...this is good feedback. Let me have a play with some drawings, and see what I can come up with.

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Sounds good to me.
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Glad to see the interest in these. I had initially approached Casey to try and get him to make me a set of one-offs. I mentioned that there were others out there that might be interested in these clocked Cs as well. So, just to make it official, I'm in for at least one axle's worth.

I do like the ideas that highlandcrawler had. Not sure how much could be incorporated with the TLT axle. The TLT version of the toob that Casey makes now would be awesome. Clock the tube and be able to use some of the other Cs on the market.
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If they are steel, I would be good for a set, or 3 ! Not sure on this, but if you make a stainless clocked version, could you also make a non-clocked version? I know you would be able to sell a bunch for sure, Thanks for keeping up the interest in TLT parts. ( there are still a bunch off us out there)
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Well, I have a basic design done....based off of the mechanical drawing that was sent to me. Only problem...the mechanical drawing has these things at 30cm wide. I imported the cad drawing into my 3D software to manipulate, and they were massive.

Anyway, I need someone to get me actual dimensions of the stock Cs...in millimeters.

This first rendition gives a 10 degree caster clock.

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I'll check the drawing in Autocad tomorrow to see what they measure. One suggestion that I might have is to alter the center hole where the axle stub goes through to allow for extra turning. I'll see if I can find a pic or two that shows what I'm talking about.

***EDIT***

Found a pic of what I'm talking about. This was posted by TwistedCreation over at the other thread about clocked Cs. This is a picture of the ones that he used to produce. You can see that the center hole is clearanced on either side to increase turning radius.


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Old 05-23-2011, 12:38 PM   #13
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KC, I think aluminum would be fine if you used a bearing like MNster did in this thread. I did this to mine and they are still tight as a drum. It might be even better than steel.



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Old 05-23-2011, 01:57 PM   #14
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Good idea, Stormin. I'd love to see the inclusion of bearings into the Cs.
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Yeah they become absolutely bullet proof, you'll never wear them out that's for sure.
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:33 PM   #16
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in for at least 1 set.
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Any luck yet, Casey? Looking forward to getting a pair of these.
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Any luck yet, Casey? Looking forward to getting a pair of these.
I hate to delay, but I have yet to receive proper dimensions for these. The cad drawings sent to me made these things like 30cm across. I will be happy to try to make some once I get the proper sizing.

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are you looking for dimensions for clocked C's or standard C'c? I should be able to give you them.
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Old 06-01-2011, 06:39 AM   #20
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I just did some quick measuring and I get 22.5 mm (0.8858 in) at the opening of the C, where the knuckle goes. Actually, I just checked and the drawing that I sent you shows a distance of 0.900 in, which is just over what I measured on my actual vehicle. Not sure why your program isn't bringing the correct dimensions over. Another point of reference is where the Cs bolt onto the axle. The center-to-center distance between those two holes is 10.89 mm (0.429 in). Hope these dimensions help.
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