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K_B · 10-07-2006, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by yukon635

it did awsome. was actually suprised. the only thing it didnt handle as well as i would of liked was side hilling, if that is a word.

Another thing killing your sidehilling MIGHT be the tires. I switched to Mashers from Moabs and there was a noticeable difference in lateral traction.

I think it might have to do with the fact that the Mashers have a wider tread area so there's less pressure whereas the Moabs are narrower and apply more pressure to a smaller area. Or... it could all be in my head. I'll have to do more tire swapping to know for sure.

4link4eva · 10-07-2006, 04:47 AM

That is the most awesome crawl spot I have ever seen. Nice.

Cheers 8-)

cartronicshn · 10-07-2006, 07:10 AM

nice rig, awesome crawling place too, you just made me want to get back and finish my XRC, thanks man for the inspiration.

yukon635 · 10-07-2006, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by K_B

Another thing killing your sidehilling MIGHT be the tires. I switched to Mashers from Moabs and there was a noticeable difference in lateral traction.

I think it might have to do with the fact that the Mashers have a wider tread area so there's less pressure whereas the Moabs are narrower and apply more pressure to a smaller area. Or... it could all be in my head. I'll have to do more tire swapping to know for sure.

well i noticed not just in 2.2 but also on my super that mashers dont like to sidehill very well. i mean dont get me wrong, they are great tires but i think that moabs do sidehill a little better then mashers.

i also noticed at our last comp that with the high clearance links, i had no trouble clearing some areas of the courses but others had trouble. i am still playing with a setup for the left rear shock to try to eliminate some of the torque twist between the springs/oil weight

thanks guys for the compliments

Cloak · 10-07-2006, 06:46 PM

One thing I did was drill more holes in my tire to let the air flow in and out much faster. I like how my Mashers perform a LOT better now because of it.

I also cut grooves on the outside of the foams, in addition to the star pattern.

yukon635 · 10-07-2006, 08:05 PM

i have four breather holes in the wheels and run almost no foams but because i added sidewall tread to them, the sidewall seems to be a little stiffer. i dont know we shall see. i liked the star pattern but didnt like all the hop that came with it.

LIKES2CRAWL · 10-07-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by yukon635

i have four breather holes in the wheels and run almost no foams but because i added sidewall tread to them, the sidewall seems to be a little stiffer. i dont know we shall see. i liked the star pattern but didnt like all the hop that came with it.

I've seen some mashers that were siped sideways that helped quite a bit on side hills.

RXcrawler · 10-08-2006, 10:04 PM

Love the truck can't wait to get my XRC going. Where is that crawl spot?

yukon635 · 10-08-2006, 11:15 PM

its here in auburn at Chewacla state park. its a good place to crawl down by the waterfall but you have to walk down hill for a good 75 yds. thru a small walking trail. thats not bad, but going back up will kill you. i have to charge all my batts before i leave and take them with me to make the trip back up worth it

K_B · 10-08-2006, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yukon635

well i noticed not just in 2.2 but also on my super that mashers dont like to sidehill very well. i mean dont get me wrong, they are great tires but i think that moabs do sidehill a little better then mashers.

i also noticed at our last comp that with the high clearance links, i had no trouble clearing some areas of the courses but others had trouble. i am still playing with a setup for the left rear shock to try to eliminate some of the torque twist between the springs/oil weight

thanks guys for the compliments

So I'm not crazy! I have XRC hi-clearance links too and I noticed a big difference between hi-clearance rig and my straight-linked rig. I thought they wouldn't help any because the pinion would grab the rocks, but, because the radius of the tire is greater than the length of the pinion, the pinion will clear most waterfall type obstacles without hanging up.

With straight links, the links will drag before tire makes contact with the edge so you gotta have some extra oomph to slide the links along.

This info may be obvious to most, but it actually didn't make sense to me until I ran my straight-linked rig the other day. :?

yukon635 · 10-08-2006, 11:43 PM

yeah, in those last series of pics, showing it crawl thru that crack, there is now way that i would have made it up that with ease like i did with the high clearance links. well i might of made it up but with a little umph and maybe some sliding until the tires grabbed, by then i might have hit a gate marker at a comp.

Brandon · 10-09-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by K_B

Another thing killing your sidehilling MIGHT be the tires. I switched to Mashers from Moabs and there was a noticeable difference in lateral traction.

I think it might have to do with the fact that the Mashers have a wider tread area so there's less pressure whereas the Moabs are narrower and apply more pressure to a smaller area. Or... it could all be in my head. I'll have to do more tire swapping to know for sure.

I have never gotten moabs to sidehill better than mashers. The biggest thing to watch out for is the sidewall rolling under on the tire, with the mashers and the correct foam setup I can keep that from happening. While with moabs it takes a lot more work. I dont know how many times I have switched back and forth, but the mashers are what im currently running and happy with. Just my 2 cents there

srfrkyle1234 · 10-10-2006, 02:50 AM

just curious what brand of paint you used & what color it happens to be. every time I see your bug i stare at it for 5 minutes. PM me because i'm curious as to the steps you took to get that amazing look. thanks!

yukon635 · 10-10-2006, 11:34 AM

it is tamiya copper paint. all i can say about painting bodies is the more you do, the better you get. make sure you clean the inside of it off really good and get all the little dust/lint particles out of it. I like to measure and make the holes for my body posts before i paint just cause you can see them. jmo. and when you do the window masks or using liquid mask for a design, make sure everything is pressed down good and that they make a tight seal. then spray away

yukon635 · 10-10-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nluvwithxlr8ing

I have never gotten moabs to sidehill better than mashers. The biggest thing to watch out for is the sidewall rolling under on the tire, with the mashers and the correct foam setup I can keep that from happening. While with moabs it takes a lot more work. I dont know how many times I have switched back and forth, but the mashers are what im currently running and happy with. Just my 2 cents there

i still like my mashers over the moabs but the deal with sidehilling isnt really the tires but the fact that my rearend wants to come over the top. i am planning on adding a little bit of weight to the rear but not much to see if that helps

10-07-2006, 04:47 AM	#22
4link4eva RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: In England, looking for the threadlock... Posts: 1,150	That is the most awesome crawl spot I have ever seen. Nice. Cheers 8-)

10-07-2006, 07:10 AM	#23
cartronicshn I wanna be Dave Join Date: May 2006 Location: HONDURAS...ROCK HEAVEN Posts: 5,076	nice rig, awesome crawling place too, you just made me want to get back and finish my XRC, thanks man for the inspiration.

10-07-2006, 06:46 PM	#25
Cloak I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,206	One thing I did was drill more holes in my tire to let the air flow in and out much faster. I like how my Mashers perform a LOT better now because of it. I also cut grooves on the outside of the foams, in addition to the star pattern.

10-07-2006, 08:05 PM	#26
yukon635 RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Trussville, AL Posts: 1,762	i have four breather holes in the wheels and run almost no foams but because i added sidewall tread to them, the sidewall seems to be a little stiffer. i dont know we shall see. i liked the star pattern but didnt like all the hop that came with it.

10-08-2006, 10:04 PM	#28
RXcrawler Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In my head Posts: 2,744	Love the truck can't wait to get my XRC going. Where is that crawl spot?

10-08-2006, 11:15 PM	#29
yukon635 RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Trussville, AL Posts: 1,762	its here in auburn at Chewacla state park. its a good place to crawl down by the waterfall but you have to walk down hill for a good 75 yds. thru a small walking trail. thats not bad, but going back up will kill you. i have to charge all my batts before i leave and take them with me to make the trip back up worth it

10-08-2006, 11:43 PM	#31
yukon635 RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Trussville, AL Posts: 1,762	yeah, in those last series of pics, showing it crawl thru that crack, there is now way that i would have made it up that with ease like i did with the high clearance links. well i might of made it up but with a little umph and maybe some sliding until the tires grabbed, by then i might have hit a gate marker at a comp.

10-10-2006, 02:50 AM	#33
srfrkyle1234 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So*Cal Posts: 226	just curious what brand of paint you used & what color it happens to be. every time I see your bug i stare at it for 5 minutes. PM me because i'm curious as to the steps you took to get that amazing look. thanks!

10-10-2006, 11:34 AM	#34
yukon635 RCC Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Trussville, AL Posts: 1,762	it is tamiya copper paint. all i can say about painting bodies is the more you do, the better you get. make sure you clean the inside of it off really good and get all the little dust/lint particles out of it. I like to measure and make the holes for my body posts before i paint just cause you can see them. jmo. and when you do the window masks or using liquid mask for a design, make sure everything is pressed down good and that they make a tight seal. then spray away

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