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bugman72 · 01-03-2007, 01:29 PM

Don't get me wrong, when I built the P4, it was far and away better than my RBX. There's just no comparison between the two now (P4 to BMVII)

Are you planning on running it at your current ride height, Dez? That's the thing that I'm most interested in comparing between our rigs. I want to see whether my extra inch of GC is really an advantage.

dezfan · 01-03-2007, 01:32 PM

Well yes and no!

The chassis is remaining at it current height, but I have a little something up my sleeve.

EeePee · 01-03-2007, 03:19 PM

Only on page six?

run2jeepn · 01-03-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EeePee

Only on page six?

Ya thats rare for a thread from Dez to be only 6 pages...To much tech and not enough BS...

dezfan · 01-03-2007, 06:37 PM

I seem to attract BS'ers for some reason!

Back to the tech.

As I haven't received my Mamba max yet, I installed my TR2 and a 65t motor for some testing this Saturday!

Added 6 oz's. to the rig, but I'll deal w/ it.

hlpressley · 01-03-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

I seem to attract BS'ers for some reason!

Thanks!

dezfan · 01-06-2007, 04:21 PM

Well took the BMVII out on the rocks today, not only testing the chassis but my 2007 comp tires as well.

Today's finding were a mixed bag.

Love the clearance of the 2.2 Badlands, w/ the conditions we had today (very slick after last nights rain) they didn't provide as much traction as I had hoped. I think a the super light weight of the BMVII also played a roll as did the foams.

I'm going to add a bit more weight low on the chassis, play w/ the foams a bit more and hope that the next trip won;t be as slick.

Second problem I encountered was the gearing and battery.

W/ the size of these tires I need to gear down a tooth or two from my normal settings. Also need to add a cell (only had a 7 cell made up for today) to add a bit more wheel speed.

Third issue was also axle related.

I need to add another shim in the rear axle. It was ok w/ the 2.2 mashers, but w/ the 2.2 Badlands, the axle was clicking pretty bad. I bought a rebuild kit just in case I needed it and I'll tear the axle down, re-shim (or rebuild) it and go from there.

Also picked up my Backfoot stubs and I'll install my MSD wideners which will also help!

Findings:

The BMVII side hills like a mountain goat and climbs vertically w/ authority.

Hard to judge it's ledge clearing ability as it was extremly slick today and the rear axle needed to be shimmed.

But it was a impressive test.

I'm real happy w/ the 2.2 Badlands and hope to do more testing w/ them as well.

Anyways here are a few pics I took today, enjoy!

toyofast · 01-06-2007, 04:42 PM

Those tires are f'ing huge. Reminds me of the mini-XL's that I made for nationals, the ones that sucked to no end.

At least nothing negitive about the BMVii was mentioned

dezfan · 01-06-2007, 04:46 PM

Chassis seems to work well, I just need more tome on the rocks w/ it.

Tires are just under 6 inches tall!

toyofast · 01-06-2007, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

Chassis seems to work well, I just need more tome on the rocks w/ it.

Tires are just under 6 inches tall!

Tires that big need weight to force them into the ground.

dezfan · 01-06-2007, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyofast

Tires that big need weight to force them into the ground.

Yeah, I'm going to add a bit to them and see how them perform.

If they don't work, I'll use the Mashers.

eric113 · 01-06-2007, 06:41 PM

Dez looks good man, I reading that one the or guys is also running a bmv2 was using mashers but has so much traction that swap to moabs, I think Sean did the samething or he switch to moabs on the front and mashers on the back. How tall are the badlands ?

dezfan · 01-06-2007, 07:19 PM

5.84 inches, just under the legal limit

hlpressley · 01-06-2007, 07:34 PM

Looks good Dez.

I want one.

dezfan · 01-06-2007, 11:49 PM

Thanks, I'm very happy w/ it to this point, just re shimmed the rear diff and added my MSD wideners.

Going to play w/ the foams tomorrow to try and get a bit more flex out of the tire.

srfrkyle1234 · 01-07-2007, 12:25 AM

the tires are SWEET. did you mod them at all? I read back a few pages and you didnt mention anything about the tires. after looking on hobbypeople.com and looking for pictures, i think my first inclination would be to mount them on narrowed rims and then trim random treds off and glue them to the side of the tire.

dezfan · 01-07-2007, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dezfan

Well yes and no!

The chassis is remaining at it current height, but I have a little something up my sleeve.

What, I mentioned it!

Little pic for you.

dieselfuel · 01-07-2007, 01:15 AM

Is that an 8th scalw buggy tread on moab sidewalls?

crawl rookie · 01-07-2007, 02:00 AM

[quote=dezfan]

I'm real happy w/ the 2.2 Badlands and hope to do more testing w/ them as well.

quote]

Here dieselfeul He's using custom Moab/Badlands

I'd realy like to see proline make some new 2.2 tires
That rig is looking great Dez!

dieselfuel · 01-07-2007, 11:08 AM

oh sorry i posted that from my blackberry phone and didnt take the time to read everything beforehand.

they look crazy but for the most part the custom tire jobs ive seen, outside of simply narrowing dont end up working well.

01-06-2007, 04:21 PM	#107
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Well took the BMVII out on the rocks today, not only testing the chassis but my 2007 comp tires as well. Today's finding were a mixed bag. Love the clearance of the 2.2 Badlands, w/ the conditions we had today (very slick after last nights rain) they didn't provide as much traction as I had hoped. I think a the super light weight of the BMVII also played a roll as did the foams. I'm going to add a bit more weight low on the chassis, play w/ the foams a bit more and hope that the next trip won;t be as slick. Second problem I encountered was the gearing and battery. W/ the size of these tires I need to gear down a tooth or two from my normal settings. Also need to add a cell (only had a 7 cell made up for today) to add a bit more wheel speed. Third issue was also axle related. I need to add another shim in the rear axle. It was ok w/ the 2.2 mashers, but w/ the 2.2 Badlands, the axle was clicking pretty bad. I bought a rebuild kit just in case I needed it and I'll tear the axle down, re-shim (or rebuild) it and go from there. Also picked up my Backfoot stubs and I'll install my MSD wideners which will also help! Findings: The BMVII side hills like a mountain goat and climbs vertically w/ authority. Hard to judge it's ledge clearing ability as it was extremly slick today and the rear axle needed to be shimmed. But it was a impressive test. I'm real happy w/ the 2.2 Badlands and hope to do more testing w/ them as well. Anyways here are a few pics I took today, enjoy! Attached Images

01-03-2007, 01:29 PM	#101
bugman72 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Jefferson City Posts: 345	Don't get me wrong, when I built the P4, it was far and away better than my RBX. There's just no comparison between the two now (P4 to BMVII) Are you planning on running it at your current ride height, Dez? That's the thing that I'm most interested in comparing between our rigs. I want to see whether my extra inch of GC is really an advantage.

01-03-2007, 01:32 PM	#102
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Well yes and no! The chassis is remaining at it current height, but I have a little something up my sleeve.

01-03-2007, 03:19 PM	#103
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Only on page six?

01-03-2007, 06:37 PM	#105
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	I seem to attract BS'ers for some reason! Back to the tech. As I haven't received my Mamba max yet, I installed my TR2 and a 65t motor for some testing this Saturday! Added 6 oz's. to the rig, but I'll deal w/ it.

01-06-2007, 04:42 PM	#108
toyofast I wanna be Dave Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Columbia Gorge Posts: 5,512	Those tires are f'ing huge. Reminds me of the mini-XL's that I made for nationals, the ones that sucked to no end. At least nothing negitive about the BMVii was mentioned

01-06-2007, 04:46 PM	#109
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Chassis seems to work well, I just need more tome on the rocks w/ it. Tires are just under 6 inches tall!

01-06-2007, 06:41 PM	#112
eric113 Moderator Rule Breaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 5,970	Dez looks good man, I reading that one the or guys is also running a bmv2 was using mashers but has so much traction that swap to moabs, I think Sean did the samething or he switch to moabs on the front and mashers on the back. How tall are the badlands ?

01-06-2007, 07:19 PM	#113
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	5.84 inches, just under the legal limit

01-06-2007, 07:34 PM	#114
hlpressley Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Monroe NC Posts: 456	Looks good Dez. I want one.

01-06-2007, 11:49 PM	#115
dezfan I wanna be Dave Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Happiness is a warm AK. Posts: 12,563	Thanks, I'm very happy w/ it to this point, just re shimmed the rear diff and added my MSD wideners. Going to play w/ the foams tomorrow to try and get a bit more flex out of the tire.

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01-07-2007, 12:25 AM	#116
srfrkyle1234 Quarry Creeper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: So*Cal Posts: 226	the tires are SWEET. did you mod them at all? I read back a few pages and you didnt mention anything about the tires. after looking on hobbypeople.com and looking for pictures, i think my first inclination would be to mount them on narrowed rims and then trim random treds off and glue them to the side of the tire.

01-07-2007, 01:15 AM	#118
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	Is that an 8th scalw buggy tread on moab sidewalls?

01-07-2007, 02:00 AM	#119
crawl rookie Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: IDK Posts: 852	[quote=dezfan] I'm real happy w/ the 2.2 Badlands and hope to do more testing w/ them as well. quote] Here dieselfeul He's using custom Moab/Badlands I'd realy like to see proline make some new 2.2 tires That rig is looking great Dez!

01-07-2007, 11:08 AM	#120
dieselfuel I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Henderson/Las Vegas, NV Posts: 5,032	oh sorry i posted that from my blackberry phone and didnt take the time to read everything beforehand. they look crazy but for the most part the custom tire jobs ive seen, outside of simply narrowing dont end up working well.

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