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08-06-2007, 11:01 AM
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| Im Brandon   Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colfax, CA
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 But you absolutely have to run the fat rock servo mount so you can set the battery all the way down on the axle. Well you dont have to but the difference will be night and day  | |
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08-06-2007, 11:15 AM
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| Sinking with the ship   Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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08-06-2007, 11:17 AM
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| Im Brandon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colfax, CA
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EDIT: Now that I take a closer look at it I am not sure... With some fabbing I know you can make it work. | |
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08-20-2007, 02:35 PM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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Got the SW3 duty bomb brown CJ running  I went with the pede trans I heard to many mixed feelings about the r2 that just made me nervous... I needed this thing to be bomb proof as I can bring all my extra parts with me to nats. Here is its set up as of now: SW3 chassis Pede trans, metal gearing cept for diff gear, bearings, slipper eliminator, 12/87 xtreme racing delrin 4 links RCP/fat rock servo/top link mount up front, bender on the rear axle losi shocks, losi whites up front losi yellows in the back TLT axles-bearings, fat rocks, rc4wd lockouts, bearings, CVDS, RCP knuckles axials wheels with 1/4oz stick on weights wrapped around the fronts hitec 5645 digital high torque servo 55 turn lathe, cut on my lathe with diamond bit, stronger springs, 8* advance timing Novak rooster CRAWLER with drag brake cj-8 body spektrum receiever axial tires with kreepy narrow red foams, stock foams in back Now, I think it did pretty good out on THE ROCK... I do think I need to weight the back of the truck as the drag brake while very helpful likes to send it *** over end  when coming down a descent...I am running the losi shocks upside down and I feel like the 1st 1/8" of travel there is a dead spot? I tried some other shocks and they feel the same way  What weight oil do you guys recommend? I feel like the rear is reacting to slowly, I think I used 50wt.... also, how can I improve my side hill right now I cannot balance the truck on its side like everyone else can, it tips over... tires  as you can see I had trouble getting traction several times... I really want to run some new losi... As far as drilling out the rims so the tires can breathe, how big of hole should I drill and how many?any other suggestions you guys may have would be great! Thanks Mike     Here are the vids    |
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08-20-2007, 02:54 PM
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| Quarry Creeper Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Syracuse
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These Lizards hook up at slllowww speeds. As much as we all go to the last resort, wheel-speed, try letting off the throttle instead of going faster, they seem to hook-up better this way. And are they the new sticky Lizards? If not, soften them up. Yes there is a dead spot. This is why I hate running shocks upside down, someone please step in and help out with the subject. I just cant seem to bleed them right. One 1/8'' hole per wheel should be fine, possibly two. Sidehilling: All in the foams, and CG in my experience. If you run the new sticky lizards, you should channel the foams for maximum sidewall support. If you channel them about 3/4-1'' deep, it will support the sidewalls, and still allow plenty of bite. Being able to stand on its side: Try lowering it just a tad, or try getting the electronics lower. This may also be hard to do depending on how you cut your foams. Hope I helped. Diggin' it so far! |
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08-20-2007, 02:59 PM
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| Im Brandon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colfax, CA
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Shocks Dead spot: Run shorter springs or allow for some droop. Yeah it will lower it somewhat but you will pass that dead spot. More than likely its the oil in the shocks. The piston is above the filled level of oil so it travels through air then hits the oil. Oil: 50wt should be fine. Especially if your weight bias requires you to add weight to the rear. Side hill: Whats your center clearance now? Maybe lower your ride height effectively lowering your cog. Tires: 2 1/8" holes will work fine. The Squishy's need to breath. Which versions of the tires are those? Try mashers as well, I have yet to get my rock claws to work as well or better than my mashers Whew! Looks good man | |
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08-20-2007, 03:04 PM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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Is that the new version? I did try going slow...they just didnt seem to bite...ill try them again at the comp this weekend, but I think I am going to get the losi's once someone has them. I am going to try drilling the rims, I think that had a bit to do with it too.the shocks is definitely irritating me, I know how to build shocks and they feel fine when right side up...I dont get it I think my side hill bit was ok, the tires were definitely not folding... last night I had the body off and it stood on its own on the side.. I am beginning to think the high lift jack on the hood isnt helping..might have to take it off when I compete. -Mike | |
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08-20-2007, 03:07 PM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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Ill check my cog, right now I have it losi buggy rears on the rear and buggy fronts on the front, maybe ill find some shocks to match the front length and drop it down. I did notice that i didnt have any scratches on the skid so i dont think ill have an GC issues if I lower it a tad.-Mike | |
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08-20-2007, 03:17 PM
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| Donkey Punch Champion!   Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis
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Mike, you really want the Losi Rock Claws. Hands down. Good luck with the SW3, we'll see you in Moab. Can you post a body off shot showing how your link mounts worked out with the FatRock servo mount? Ryan |
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08-20-2007, 03:22 PM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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I took off my delrin links and used some revo links (I think revo...).-Mike | |
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08-20-2007, 03:29 PM
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| PapaGriz Yo  Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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 There is always some air in the shocks so when you run the shock upside down and the shock fully extended the air travels to the top of the body.Like Brandon said, the piston is sitting in the air bubbles. Nothing you can do. Might does it slightly too but I don't worry about it too much. I like 50wt oil all the way around. Personally I wouldn't worry about the whole balance on the side thing too much. It should be close to doing it though. Mine has never done that except when it had droop suspension, and that was when it performed it's wost. I think that you have to adjust the amount of wheel/axle weight to account for the CG (weight of your body, ride height, etc). Also, if your sidewalls are rolling over on sidehills then you need more sidewall support. Unless you have Losi tires, then it's ok. I run 2 1/8" holes in the wheels I have right now. As far as tires go, you'd be better off with Mashers or even Moabs if those are not the sticky Lizards. I have no experience with the sticky Lizards but I plan to run Claws. I'll have a set of Mashers mounted up just in case I need a wider tire for some course. The best thing is practice, something I didn't used to do enough of. Run it over and over making small changes. Even if your rig isn't perfectly set up to do everything just right (no rig is), knowing the limitations of your rig and how you can account for it with different lines and such is really important. Last edited by Grizzly4x4; 08-20-2007 at 03:37 PM. | |
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08-20-2007, 03:49 PM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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I am going to change the tires, my stepdad said I can borrow his mashers, so I am going to run those this weekend at the comp in jersey. These tires didnt roll the side walls at all, I think I had "sidehilling" mized up with getting it to stand on it side, I personally think its side hill'd pretty well. This weekends comp will show what it can really do. -Mike | |
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08-20-2007, 03:54 PM
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| PapaGriz Yo Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the garage building the wife a crawler
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I can't watch the videos until after work hours, during work hours the sites are blocked. So if your videos would have made my answers any different then that's why. Good luck at the comp. | |
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08-20-2007, 03:57 PM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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Well if ya got time then, be sure to watch them keep in mind, I drove and filmed and I was trying to do a good at both -mike | |
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08-21-2007, 02:48 AM
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| I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: KENNEWICK, WA
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Looks good, not to sure about them lizards though. |
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08-21-2007, 09:25 AM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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08-21-2007, 10:11 AM
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| RCC Addict Join Date: May 2006 Location: Aroostook county
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I want one :-( nice rig! ditch the lizards though |
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08-22-2007, 01:27 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Orange County
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what spur gear and pinion gear are you running ?
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08-22-2007, 02:58 AM
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| Rock Crawler Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado
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looks really nice.. nice to see someone running a body that is not a bug
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08-22-2007, 08:54 AM
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| Sinking with the ship Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: El Capitan...sole survivor and sinking fast
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