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86ss1 10-21-2004 01:47 AM

what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
I am looking for a geaR reduction, what would be the best to go with?? I know the gd-600 comes with a 3 to 1 ratio and a 2 to 1 ratio, what would be better??

also can someone link to a good place to buy...

Thanks...

Jeckler 10-21-2004 08:58 AM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
The GD comes with an 18t pinion, which gives it a 2:5.1 out of the box. I bought a 13t to go along with it, but after running the stock pinion (with a 9t on the other end), I think that'd be to slow.
R/C Unlimited on Union and Camden has (had) them for $13 (same as Tower). It was listed under the wrong part number though. Ask for a GS-600. Or, give them the Tower part number, LXSL79.

TwistedXT 10-21-2004 09:26 AM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
The slower the better... i found that the GD600 was very easy to mount and centered the motor almost perfectly. i have found out that with the 3:1, my rig will almost not free roll downhill once you stop... its kinda nice. there are a bunch out there but this one seems to be the most popular... with the most info on line too,....

86ss1 10-21-2004 10:39 AM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
how owuld the motor mount work?? from a double to single motor mount?? do I have to make one?? if, so what did u guys do or use to make one???

so best thing to do is to leave the the reduction alone and play with different pinions on the motor??

what combo would I have to run to get a 3:1 ratio??

thanks again guys...

rckjeep 10-21-2004 10:59 AM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
Your can go the mammoth route as well. But all the answer are you just search around and you'll find them. I'm running a GD600 @ 2.5 with a 9t on the motor. I've run it with a lathe motor and it was pretty slow I changed to a 27t and I now have wheel speed but it doesn't crawl as well. I might go to 3.0:1 with the 27t. But my motor is making funny noises all of a sudden. So we'll see

Jeckler 10-21-2004 12:02 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 86ss1
how owuld the motor mount work?? from a double to single motor mount?? do I have to make one?? if, so what did u guys do or use to make one???

so best thing to do is to leave the the reduction alone and play with different pinions on the motor??

what combo would I have to run to get a 3:1 ratio??

thanks again guys...

It's a straight bolt on, with a little booty-fab. The output side of the GD has to be shaved down to fit in the motor plate. I used a razor blade. The shaft also needs to be turned to accept standard 3.2mm pinions. Another option is to drill a pinion for a 5mm shaft, but you can't use a 9t. When I tried drilling a 15t, it got got all screwed up and wouldn't sit straight. PM Dude, he should have some shafts.

I posted a chart >>in this thread<< that has a gearing chart. Here it is as well...

Code:

GD redux: 2.5:1 (18t 48p pinion on motor - stock as supplied from Great Planes)
Output shaft pinion:    tranny ratio:  final redux:
15t                    34 (stock)      85
14t                    36.4            91
13t                    39.2            98
12t                    42.5            106.3
11t                    46.3            115.6
10t                    51              127.5
9t                      56.6            141.5

GD redux: 3:1 (15t 48p pinion on motor)
Output shaft pinion:    tranny ratio:  final redux:
15t                    34 (stock)      102
14t                    36.4            109.2
13t                    39.2            117.6
12t                    42.5            127.5
11t                    46.3            139
10t                    51              153
9t                      56.6            170

GD redux: 3.5:1 (13t 48p pinion on motor)
Output shaft pinion:    tranny ratio:  final redux:
15t                    34 (stock)      119
14t                    36.4            127.4
13t                    39.2            137.2
12t                    42.5            149
11t                    46.3            162
10t                    51              179
9t                      56.6            198

GD redux: 3.8:1 (12t 48p pinion on motor)
Output shaft pinion:    tranny ratio:  final redux:
15t                    34 (stock)      129.2
14t                    36.4            138.3
13t                    39.2            149
12t                    42.5            161.5
11t                    46.3            176
10t                    51              194
9t                      56.6            215.1


EeePee 10-21-2004 03:14 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
I went with the 129.2:1 ratio.

Works quite nicely, slow, torquey, and just enough wheel speed left over.
It's my 3rd, and final gear ratio change.

killertxt 10-21-2004 04:36 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
Can someone give me the final ratio with 20t 48p & 9t 32p.

THANKS

Jeckler 10-21-2004 07:23 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
The spur on the GD is 46t, so 46/20=2.3:1
We know a 9t pinion on the the tranny gives us 56.6:1, so 56.6x2.3=130.18.

killertxt 10-21-2004 07:49 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
Thanks

Harley 10-22-2004 10:20 AM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
I tired searching aroung but couldn't really find anything productive about the inline reduction. I kept running into people who would say it but then go on to talking about a 600 or mamoth. Anyone use these around here, if so why or why not?

Jeckler 10-22-2004 10:44 AM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
You mean the MP-Jet worm reduction? Looks cool, but needs more mods to make it work. Something about an adapter plate. Plus, I think's it harder to find than the GD, even the Mammoth box. I don't know to much about it, but I don't think you can adjust internal ratios with it. It's set at 3.8:1, IIRC.

Inkmaxx 10-24-2004 06:29 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
I am starting to build up my stock TXT, Going to do the standard stuff , and want to set it up with one of these reductions.Now the big question , I would like to run it with a Magnectic mayhem motor , which ould it be.Standard rotation or reverse rotation?

EeePee 10-24-2004 10:20 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
With a GD 600 and the motor in the back, it's normal rotation.

Inkmaxx 10-26-2004 06:08 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
Motor in the back??????
Do I have to turn the tranny around? What about leaving it stock?

Jeckler 10-26-2004 07:13 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkmaxx
Motor in the back??????

Yup, some of us are wierd that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkmaxx
Do I have to turn the tranny around?

Uh huh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inkmaxx
What about leaving it stock?

Then you use a reverse rotation motor with a GD.

Inkmaxx 10-27-2004 09:01 PM

Re: what is the best gear reduction>???and what ratio?
 
So if I were to just replace both stock motors , I would have to replace them with reversed motors?


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