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EJEEP · 03-01-2005, 07:52 AM

Well i took it out for a test run and found some problems i need to fix. The first onn being the steering arm from the servo is not doing a good job of turning , i think i need to make one that has a z bend in it. next problem was when it gets bound up it stripped out the spur gear in the tranny. Those are fixed for now and i am trying it out with 2 shocks at each end, even though it takes away from lots of flex. I may go back to the single spring in the rear . That worked really well and the spring width did maintain staibility, much better that you would think. I'm not sure how putting shocks with out springs can benifit the set up. take a look and tell me what you think. All input is helpful

EJEEP · 03-01-2005, 07:53 AM

what do you think?

stlcrawler · 03-01-2005, 09:26 AM

I think it needs to be lowered. Idealy you would like yoursuspension links parallel to the ground. This hels to reduce axle steer and inprove suspension response. Center clearance of around 4.5 -5.5 inches seems to be what most people are running. Just my 2 cents.

DirkDigler · 03-01-2005, 10:01 AM

wheel base, wheel base, wheel base!!!!!

EeePee · 03-01-2005, 10:08 AM

Try moving your shocks inboard towards the tranny. You'll lower it, and lengthen it at the same time, and you will gain some articulation back.

mike · 03-01-2005, 11:45 AM

just basically what everyone else said. it needs to be lowered and lengthened for stability. moving the top of the shocks in ward to the center will solve bothe these problems and give you alot more articulation.

EJEEP · 03-01-2005, 03:16 PM

The wheel base is 16" and i tried the shocks layed forward but i think i'm getting some bind out of the four link. What wheelbase do i need to shoot for? how do i stop the binding if the link arms.

BENDER · 03-01-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by EJEEP

The wheel base is 16" and i tried the shocks layed forward but i think i'm getting some bind out of the four link. What wheelbase do i need to shoot for? how do i stop the binding if the link arms.

Probably about 17" for WB, with Kongs, and lowering ride height will "flatten links out" so they're more parallel to the ground. Just lowering it will fix a lot for you.

badger · 03-01-2005, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJEEP

The wheel base is 16" and i tried the shocks layed forward but i think i'm getting some bind out of the four link. What wheelbase do i need to shoot for? how do i stop the binding if the link arms.

There is no way that this is at 16" wb. How are you measuring it?

DirkDigler · 03-01-2005, 03:44 PM

I "call" on the wheel base. NO way that thing has a 16 inch wb.
It looks like 14 or 15 inches to me.

Measure again!

seriously.....maybe your ruler is wrong!!!

With Kongs...you'll want 17 inches minumum!

DirkDigler · 03-01-2005, 03:46 PM

Haha
Badger
we must have been eyeballing and posting at the exact same time.....crying "bullshiat"!!!!!!

If you take that ruler in the picture and visually put it horizontally, the wheel base looks like it would land in the 12 inch range. Hell.....my pecker is almost that long!!!!!

badger · 03-01-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WannaBeDigler

Haha
Badger
we must have been eyeballing and posting at the exact same time.....crying "bullshiat"!!!!!!

If you take that ruler in the picture and visually put it horizontally, the wheel base looks like it would land in the 12 inch range. Hell.....my pecker is almost that long!!!!!

Yeah no kidding!

Although I could only measure a xmod's wheel bases! :-(

broncotxt · 03-01-2005, 06:10 PM

Your sick! but i agree lower that thing!

bubbacheechee · 03-01-2005, 08:19 PM

looks good i agree you need to remeasure the wheel base and lower it

EJEEP · 03-01-2005, 09:32 PM

My bad the 16"WB is without the shocks on the damn thing i now see where i'm messing up. I will make longer links to strech it to 17" or so, thanks for the input, but i can only carry 4 or 5 of you on my back at a time when you jump on me for f-ing up!!! (LOL) I'LL KEEP WORKING.But so far i'm on the right path . Can i hear an amen
lol More to come

badger · 03-01-2005, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJEEP

My bad the 16"WB is without the shocks on the damn thing i now see where i'm messing up. I will make longer links to strech it to 17" or so, thanks for the input, but i can only carry 4 or 5 of you on my back at a time when you jump on me for f-ing up!!! (LOL) I'LL KEEP WORKING.But so far i'm on the right path . Can i hear an amen
lol More to come

Amen! At least you understand where you F'ed up!

Dirk still does not get it!

stlcrawler · 03-02-2005, 12:27 AM

My next question is how the heck did you strip out the spur gear!? You better check your gear mesh befor you run it again.

DirkDigler · 03-02-2005, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by badger

Amen! At least you understand where you F'ed up!

Dirk still does not get it!

Right!.....or should I say, Wrong!
Oh well........
I hate you all!

03-01-2005, 07:52 AM	#1
EJEEP Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: FRONT DIGGING YOUR MOMS YARD Posts: 73	Getting close First Test Run Well i took it out for a test run and found some problems i need to fix. The first onn being the steering arm from the servo is not doing a good job of turning , i think i need to make one that has a z bend in it. next problem was when it gets bound up it stripped out the spur gear in the tranny. Those are fixed for now and i am trying it out with 2 shocks at each end, even though it takes away from lots of flex. I may go back to the single spring in the rear . That worked really well and the spring width did maintain staibility, much better that you would think. I'm not sure how putting shocks with out springs can benifit the set up. take a look and tell me what you think. All input is helpful Attached Images

03-01-2005, 07:53 AM	#2
EJEEP Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: FRONT DIGGING YOUR MOMS YARD Posts: 73	some more what do you think? Attached Images

03-01-2005, 03:16 PM	#7
EJEEP Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: FRONT DIGGING YOUR MOMS YARD Posts: 73	Wheelbase The wheel base is 16" and i tried the shocks layed forward but i think i'm getting some bind out of the four link. What wheelbase do i need to shoot for? how do i stop the binding if the link arms.

03-01-2005, 09:32 PM	#15
EJEEP Rock Stacker Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: FRONT DIGGING YOUR MOMS YARD Posts: 73	Wheelbase My bad the 16"WB is without the shocks on the damn thing i now see where i'm messing up. I will make longer links to strech it to 17" or so, thanks for the input, but i can only carry 4 or 5 of you on my back at a time when you jump on me for f-ing up!!! (LOL) I'LL KEEP WORKING.But so far i'm on the right path . Can i hear an amen lol More to come Last edited by EJEEP; 03-01-2005 at 09:37 PM.

03-01-2005, 09:26 AM	#3
stlcrawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Louis MO Posts: 58	I think it needs to be lowered. Idealy you would like yoursuspension links parallel to the ground. This hels to reduce axle steer and inprove suspension response. Center clearance of around 4.5 -5.5 inches seems to be what most people are running. Just my 2 cents.

03-01-2005, 10:01 AM	#4
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	wheel base, wheel base, wheel base!!!!!

03-01-2005, 10:08 AM	#5
EeePee MODERATOR™ Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 18,928	Try moving your shocks inboard towards the tranny. You'll lower it, and lengthen it at the same time, and you will gain some articulation back.

03-01-2005, 11:45 AM	#6
mike RCC Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Redding, CA Posts: 1,288	just basically what everyone else said. it needs to be lowered and lengthened for stability. moving the top of the shocks in ward to the center will solve bothe these problems and give you alot more articulation.

03-01-2005, 03:44 PM	#10
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	I "call" on the wheel base. NO way that thing has a 16 inch wb. It looks like 14 or 15 inches to me. Measure again! seriously.....maybe your ruler is wrong!!! With Kongs...you'll want 17 inches minumum!

03-01-2005, 03:46 PM	#11
DirkDigler I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,027	Haha Badger we must have been eyeballing and posting at the exact same time.....crying "bullshiat"!!!!!! If you take that ruler in the picture and visually put it horizontally, the wheel base looks like it would land in the 12 inch range. Hell.....my pecker is almost that long!!!!!

03-01-2005, 06:10 PM	#13
broncotxt Pebble Pounder Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Delaware A Place With No Rocks! Posts: 143	Your sick! but i agree lower that thing!

03-01-2005, 08:19 PM	#14
bubbacheechee Rock Stacker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Redding CA Posts: 93	looks good i agree you need to remeasure the wheel base and lower it

03-02-2005, 12:27 AM	#17
stlcrawler Rock Stacker Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saint Louis MO Posts: 58	My next question is how the heck did you strip out the spur gear!? You better check your gear mesh befor you run it again.

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