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killswitch · 08-12-2009, 08:10 PM

I dug through my tamiya dealer books and cross referenced a bunch of parts info. I also dug through some Car Action mags with articles about the TA02.

As far as the front drives go, CC/XC-01= TA02 (narrow)= TA03 front= FF01. MIP CVDs for TA02(narrow) and TA03 fit perfect. The MIP part numbers for TA02N CVDs can be found here: Kaetwo's Jeep Wrangler
MIP TA03 part numbers: 1225 for the shiny bones (2 per pack) and 1226 for the CVD axle (1 per pack) Any 1/10th MIP CVD coupler will fit.
TA01 and TA02W do not work without different steering knuckles.
If you have to have tamiya parts the universal driveshafts part number is 53172. Good luck finding some...

Steering knuckles for CC-01, TA02N, TA03, and FF01 are all the same parts. Aluminum pieces spec'd for these should interchange.

C carriers for CC01 appear to be the same parts as used on TA02N and FF01. TA03 carriers have different geometry. I cant cross reference the part #s since tamiya molds these parts on different trees for different kits, but the parts breakdowns all have identically drawn parts and the TA02N cars I saw in the RCCAs use the same carriers as the CC01. TA03 are definitely different.

These tamiya hop ups fit (Ive used them before when the first rtr jero was released):
53218 Touring Car Hard Joint Cup Set
53141 Lightweight King Pins (these use an allen driver to install and are flat against the c carrier... no more button head sticking down on the bottom of the carrier.
53172 TA02/FF Front Universals

These should fit as Ive seen these on a few FF chassis and TA02 kits on Tamiyaclub.com, and they look just like the CC01 carriers, but I dont have them and havent seen them on a CC01:
53226 Aluminum front hub carriers

There were a ton of companies that sold blingin' hop ups for the tamiya touring car kits back in the day. Here's a list of manufacturers that I can verify made parts for the TA02N/FF01/TA03:
Kose, Tobee Craft, Kawada, Cross, Rainbow, Phoenix, HPI, Tech Racing, GPM, Eagle
Some of this stuff was Asian market only so good luck. A company called GTP California imported a lot of the stuff as well.
I think trinity had some stuff out at one time, but i cant find anything for sure.

Hope this info helps and post up if you guys have any other info on this stuff.

4drmopar · 08-12-2009, 10:06 PM

subscribed for future updates!!

thanks!
Nice to meet another OCD'er

kaetwo · 08-13-2009, 10:56 AM

Excellent write-up!!!!

I was always curious about the C-Carrier options and now I know just what to get.

Thanks!!!

pardonmyn00b · 08-13-2009, 12:24 PM

Thanks for the helpful info

killswitch · 08-13-2009, 01:52 PM

Anytime you guys need tamiya numbers cross referenced let me know. I have 2 tamiya dealer books that span the original blackfoot/mountaineer stuff through the TA04 touring cars (I think my newest one is from 2006/2007). Just let me know what you are looking for and I can probably find it. Its really nice when you're looking for older parts because a lot of the part numbers have changed and the same parts may be used in a newer kit with a different part number...

Drew84 · 08-13-2009, 02:27 PM

What kills me is I had a Tamiya TA02 FF with front aluminum knuckles and Tamiya universals for years and I gave it a way last spring before I ever thought about buying a CC-01.

STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER · 08-13-2009, 07:47 PM

i was wondering if any of tamiya's 4WD buggies from arms would fit on a CC/XC. or if the wild dagger front arms would fit...

killswitch · 08-14-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER

i was wondering if any of tamiya's 4WD buggies from arms would fit on a CC/XC. or if the wild dagger front arms would fit...

its possible. a arms are fairly easy to adapt to other vehicles as long as theres enough material on the mount and arm to do some trimming/fitting. The main issue with running longer arms is you have to find longer dogbones/cvds to make it all work.

squatch71 · 08-16-2009, 03:55 PM

Nice, this should be a sticky.....

good wright up....

SMUDGEBUG · 08-16-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killswitch

its possible. a arms are fairly easy to adapt to other vehicles as long as theres enough material on the mount and arm to do some trimming/fitting. The main issue with running longer arms is you have to find longer dogbones/cvds to make it all work.

If you are saying that the TA02 steering knuckles and the likes fit then I could see the A-Arms fitting too. I have 2 TA02's at home, 1 being the Tamiya Hummer which has short A-Arms compared to the Tamiya Blazing Star which would be a good 20-25mm wider. I will compare A-Arms for compatibility tonight and let you all know. The only problem I could see with running wider fronts is you would have to widen or use some serious spacers for the rear differential ?

blackfoot · 08-16-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SMUDGEBUG

If you are saying that the TA02 steering knuckles and the likes fit then I could see the A-Arms fitting too. I have 2 TA02's at home, 1 being the Tamiya Hummer which has short A-Arms compared to the Tamiya Blazing Star which would be a good 20-25mm wider. I will compare A-Arms for compatibility tonight and let you all know. The only problem I could see with running wider fronts is you would have to widen or use some serious spacers for the rear differential ?

The Humvee chassis is actually the DF-01. I have a TL01 and have both sets of arms and dogs for it. I will have to see if everything will swap over for you guys. I like my CC01's set up just the way they are, so it will be done just to see if any of it will work out for you all, to save you all buyin unwanted or needed parts and wasting money.

SMUDGEBUG · 08-16-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfoot

The Humvee chassis is actually the DF-01. I have a TL01 and have both sets of arms and dogs for it. I will have to see if everything will swap over for you guys. I like my CC01's set up just the way they are, so it will be done just to see if any of it will work out for you all, to save you all buyin unwanted or needed parts and wasting money.

Im not saying your wrong blackfoot, but my Tamiya Hummer is a TA02 chassis it even says it on the instruction book ? and my other TA02 chassis that I have just given to a friend is exactly the same as the hummer ? Maybe tamiya used the same chassis and just changed the name ?

This is my Hummer here >>>>>> http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=58154

killswitch · 08-16-2009, 11:52 PM

the original hummer was on a ta02 chassis but it used some ta01/ta02w stuff per the dealer book. the dog bones are the same but it uses ta02w stub axles and different knuckles. Tamiya mixed and matched parts on a ton of the ta01/ta02 based rides, depending on what body/drive train set up they were trying to build. The hummer was rebadged a df01 when it was brought out as a xb rtr, but it still uses the same a,b,c,d and e part numbers as the original.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackfoot

I like my CC01's set up just the way they are, so it will be done just to see if any of it will work out for you all, to save you all buyin unwanted or needed parts and wasting money.

I like it as well because its very simple and extremely durable (dog bones excluded because Ive broken/bent a bunch), but the setup can definitely be improved upon. My biggest complaint is the amount of slop present before the chassis has ever touched the ground. I used to race touring and 12th scale on carpet, so Im pretty OCD when it comes to removing all of the slop. I could spend a ton of time using epoxy, shims, etc to clean it up, but id rather find some parts that can clean up the majority of the slop fairly quickly. Please by all means post up if you find other parts that fit, thats why I started this thread in the first place.

blackfoot · 08-17-2009, 04:06 AM

Oh, I know its a TA01/02 chassis, I just wanted to try my hand at being anally PC, lol. I have a the Humvee, a TA02 as well as a TA01 and they are all about the same thing except a few tiny variations.

killswitch · 08-17-2009, 06:41 AM

LOL glad to know Im not the only old timer around here.

4drmopar · 08-17-2009, 05:42 PM

seein' as how I'm 34 and was racing a Sledgehammer in stock truck class before they changed the rules to deal with it.. your not the only guy who is an oldertimer! lol

RCtweakR · 08-17-2009, 10:18 PM

Thank you guys for the great info.

killswitch · 08-17-2009, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4drmopar

seein' as how I'm 34 and was racing a Sledgehammer in stock truck class before they changed the rules to deal with it.. your not the only guy who is an oldertimer! lol

the sledgehammer.... got a soft spot for white nylon myself. I had one of those all decked out with a A&L suspension kit.

4drmopar · 08-17-2009, 10:36 PM

yep,take the pogo spring body mounts off, dril though the mounting nubs,turn them into the bodyposts, cut the wheelwell openings bigger and eat every blackfoot and kingcab in sight!

spankrjs · 08-19-2009, 01:40 PM

Been here, done this

http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/sho...highlight=ta02

08-12-2009, 08:10 PM	#1
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	CC-01: Hop Ups and other goodies I dug through my tamiya dealer books and cross referenced a bunch of parts info. I also dug through some Car Action mags with articles about the TA02. As far as the front drives go, CC/XC-01= TA02 (narrow)= TA03 front= FF01. MIP CVDs for TA02(narrow) and TA03 fit perfect. The MIP part numbers for TA02N CVDs can be found here: Kaetwo's Jeep Wrangler MIP TA03 part numbers: 1225 for the shiny bones (2 per pack) and 1226 for the CVD axle (1 per pack) Any 1/10th MIP CVD coupler will fit. TA01 and TA02W do not work without different steering knuckles. If you have to have tamiya parts the universal driveshafts part number is 53172. Good luck finding some... Steering knuckles for CC-01, TA02N, TA03, and FF01 are all the same parts. Aluminum pieces spec'd for these should interchange. C carriers for CC01 appear to be the same parts as used on TA02N and FF01. TA03 carriers have different geometry. I cant cross reference the part #s since tamiya molds these parts on different trees for different kits, but the parts breakdowns all have identically drawn parts and the TA02N cars I saw in the RCCAs use the same carriers as the CC01. TA03 are definitely different. These tamiya hop ups fit (Ive used them before when the first rtr jero was released): 53218 Touring Car Hard Joint Cup Set 53141 Lightweight King Pins (these use an allen driver to install and are flat against the c carrier... no more button head sticking down on the bottom of the carrier. 53172 TA02/FF Front Universals These should fit as Ive seen these on a few FF chassis and TA02 kits on Tamiyaclub.com, and they look just like the CC01 carriers, but I dont have them and havent seen them on a CC01: 53226 Aluminum front hub carriers There were a ton of companies that sold blingin' hop ups for the tamiya touring car kits back in the day. Here's a list of manufacturers that I can verify made parts for the TA02N/FF01/TA03: Kose, Tobee Craft, Kawada, Cross, Rainbow, Phoenix, HPI, Tech Racing, GPM, Eagle Some of this stuff was Asian market only so good luck. A company called GTP California imported a lot of the stuff as well. I think trinity had some stuff out at one time, but i cant find anything for sure. Hope this info helps and post up if you guys have any other info on this stuff. Last edited by killswitch; 08-12-2009 at 08:13 PM.

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08-12-2009, 10:06 PM	#2
4drmopar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 224	subscribed for future updates!! thanks! Nice to meet another OCD'er

08-13-2009, 10:56 AM	#3
kaetwo I wanna be Dave Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Whales Posts: 2,939	Excellent write-up!!!! I was always curious about the C-Carrier options and now I know just what to get. Thanks!!!

08-13-2009, 12:24 PM	#4
pardonmyn00b I wanna be Dave Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Unnecessary Surgery Land Posts: 3,406	Thanks for the helpful info

08-13-2009, 01:52 PM	#5
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	Anytime you guys need tamiya numbers cross referenced let me know. I have 2 tamiya dealer books that span the original blackfoot/mountaineer stuff through the TA04 touring cars (I think my newest one is from 2006/2007). Just let me know what you are looking for and I can probably find it. Its really nice when you're looking for older parts because a lot of the part numbers have changed and the same parts may be used in a newer kit with a different part number...

08-13-2009, 02:27 PM	#6
Drew84 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Salem Posts: 7	What kills me is I had a Tamiya TA02 FF with front aluminum knuckles and Tamiya universals for years and I gave it a way last spring before I ever thought about buying a CC-01.

08-13-2009, 07:47 PM	#7
STEEL_CITY_CRAWLER RCC Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: MUSE, PA Posts: 1,273	i was wondering if any of tamiya's 4WD buggies from arms would fit on a CC/XC. or if the wild dagger front arms would fit...

08-16-2009, 03:55 PM	#9
squatch71 I wanna be Dave Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: four o six Posts: 2,101	Nice, this should be a sticky..... good wright up....

08-17-2009, 04:06 AM	#14
blackfoot Quarry Creeper Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Clymer, NY Posts: 394	Oh, I know its a TA01/02 chassis, I just wanted to try my hand at being anally PC, lol. I have a the Humvee, a TA02 as well as a TA01 and they are all about the same thing except a few tiny variations.

08-17-2009, 06:41 AM	#15
killswitch RCC Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: St. Albans Posts: 1,441	LOL glad to know Im not the only old timer around here.

08-17-2009, 05:42 PM	#16
4drmopar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 224	seein' as how I'm 34 and was racing a Sledgehammer in stock truck class before they changed the rules to deal with it.. your not the only guy who is an oldertimer! lol

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RCtweakR Rock Stacker Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 72	Thank you guys for the great info.

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4drmopar Quarry Creeper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 224	yep,take the pogo spring body mounts off, dril though the mounting nubs,turn them into the bodyposts, cut the wheelwell openings bigger and eat every blackfoot and kingcab in sight!

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